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Kamen Rider Zeztz Case #24- "Break" Discussion
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JusticeMagnum
I saw an interesting theory online about what Baku has to do in this new route with the knowledge he has now:
1. Stop the Bomber Nightmare before it escapes into the real world. That way the massive outbreak of Nightmares never occurs (also it we wouldn't have to redo every Nightmare scenario or shotgun through them since a decent chunk of them probably wouldn't occur.)
2: Return Nox to the real world before he gets a chance to become Nox Knight again. That way Baku won't get the Nox elimination mission (or at least it will delay it) and stay in CODE's favor for a little while longer.
So Baku will go from Ethan Hunt to a totally different Tom Cruise movie.
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Mesnick
Unsurprisingly, Lady eventually went crazy from the experience. And the years without sleep only made things worse.
I presume Lady is using some kind of Nightmare magic to prolong her consciousness indefinitely, as a human normally wouldn't survive a year without sleep.
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Fish Sandwich
I think it's a pretty basic good faith thing for criticism to at least operate on the basis that the people creating these worlds and characters also have some level of emotional investment in them, unless there's evidence that actively points to the contrary.
Yeah, most creators surely care about their creations and any bad decisions are usually the result of flawed writing, executive meddling or behind the scenes problems. Nothing is immune to any of the above, as these people are humans like us, who live in the same world as us. Of course, there can be some exceptions of creators not caring when they don't get to do whatever they want (looks at Revice).
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Fish Sandwich
Don't you dare say that! Riders should always use their base forms!
I mean, I think Zeztz could've at least changed from Impact to Plasma after realizing Three had the advantage.
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Fish Sandwich
Oh, he absolutely remembers. That's one of the things that makes this arc so interesting to me. Rider fans are inclined to process it as being in that whole genre we have now of the berserker form, and if you take him at his word, it sounds almost like some dissociative episode with Seven "taking over", but it seems pretty clear looking at a lot of his reactions to things that everything we see here IS in fact just Baku as we've always known him. He never had a split personality to begin with. It's less that there's some outside influence making him this way and more that he's desperately forcing
himself
to act this way, ironically thinking it will stop him from making more mistakes.
Like how he was introduced with that "Trust those tears to me." line you mentioned, it's always been clear that Seven is a good guy who we should want to root for. He's always been cool, but he's only recently been cold after being willed in to the real world. The way I see it, the Cool Seven we know and love is the purest representation of Baku's identity, with his conscious and subconscious in alignment thanks to the power of lucid dreaming, where "kokoro" may as well mean both heart and mind as he uses them in sync. This is a person Baku could become, with enough experience and wisdom. The Cold Seven is the result of Baku forcing his "I'm on it" subconscious to the foreground after devaluing his conscious feelings, like putting the wagon before the horse except in this analogy the wagon is autonomous and a loose cannon.
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DreamSword
You're right that that wasn't what I was getting at. I don't think Takahashi or whoever is actively out to attack the viewer or anything. I actually think they're doing it with the intent to improve. Heck, to give a comparison to the most recent Rider show I watched, Saber's' shift in Arc 2 did infact win people over, and as seen here, these last few episodes have been bringing more people around to Zeztz. It just sort of leaves people like me, who were all in on the original direction, out in the open.
This is the time of year in a Takahashi show where we get Kamen Rider Chronicle Hell or Job Competition (Ohmori's fault), so I can't deny that I'm a little apprehensive about where Zeztz goes from here. But I know that I've been enjoying it so far, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he can carry the current arc like he did with the previous one. Also, count me in the club of people who enjoyed Saber's first arc!
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Frontier
To be honest I still don't understand why they introduced Inazuma Plasma Boost if he was never going to use it again.
So Premium Bandai get new merchandise to sell.
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