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07-27-2022, 10:53 PM
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Sh Ranger
Even Vail got to have some peace, as Genta forgave him and gave him a home inside him. Vail's a bad guy, but Masumi had a point that he was also a victim of NOAH's abuse, so that peace after a lifetime of suffering might be the least he deserved.
He came from NOAH abuse, but he had committed significantly greater atrocities than any NOAH member, with the probably exception of Agariyama (and dunno how severe he is as he doesn't have that much screentime). Like though Masumi did questionable stuff that needs to be atoned, he's never close to be as bad as Vail, young or old. The theme here is about forgiving yourself (Genta forgiving Vail = Genta forgiving himself, as per how inner demon is a part of yourself), so Vail's maliciousness is better off highlighted here, rather than curbed due to his victim status, as it's how forgiving yourself should be done, fully acknowledging past tragedies and dark traits (as Junpei) and also making amends with oneself to let go from that and attain more inner peace and mental health to live a more fulfilling life. Speaking of Zi-O reference here, this (and perhaps the end of Daiji's arc) should be similar to Sougo accepting his Mirror self, which'd mean Sougo acknowledging his dark traits inside to face the future.
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Pretty ironic how the most angelic Rider sided with the devils. I feel like there could have been more of an attempt to explain what was going through Daiji's head when he decided that subjugation of humanity was the right thing to do. Him blaming Ikki's busybody trait was also confusing, since he previously scolded him for not being busybody enough when they found out Demons Driver was killing Hiromi.
Holy Live's angelic look and knight motif actually suits his anti-villain phase, now it represents his self-righteousness, with us or against us approach, an example of a display when forces of light and order gets a little bit too hardcore, and get blinded by themselves and their ideals. Daiji leans too much on the order side without Kagerou. Actually chaos isn't always bad/evil thing (and law isn't always good). Chaos can just be about breaking a law if it blocks you from doing good (about a non-pragmatic approach). About Daiji scolding Ikki for not being busybody enough, the line happened once, so it seems to be a throwaway scenario tbh, feels like Ikki has developed to be less of a busybody, but not getting rid of that trait entirely, like how Giffard Rex is obtained, by intervening when Genta almost died. There are several people still chastising Ikki for being busybody too in these late episode discussions too.
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My favorite part about Hiromi being back is how he interacts with George, like the reference to the punch not landing and George telling him to retire his catchphrase in favor of something less self-destructive. Those two care about each other deep down and I love that!
There's a difference between 'caring deep down' and 'changing into a better person'... This George isn't the same guy we first knew (or in this case, likely Masumi's demon manifesting inside him until ep. 25 for some reason). George did terrible stuff to Hiromi (as Demons), and in ep. 29 it's acknowledged in universe and he wanted to atone by helping Hiromi if he can. Previously George gloated about Hiromi being a guinea pig, guilt-tripping Hiromi over Daiji, and mocking Hiromi's heroism (despite being a KR fanboy). Now George cares by
not doing that anymore
, by instead solemnly warning Hiromi over his body condition, asks if Hiromi would be successful in changing Daiji, and make Hiromi promise to not throw his life away carelessly, overall actual decent approach to someone. And the punch not landing is perhaps Hiromi acknowledging that George isn't like that anymore now, forgiving him (after all, it started with a punch, that part's probably about addressing the terrible things George did, or rather, Masumi's demon).
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Hiromi's basically an 80 year-old, but the only reason Tamaki can't fight is cause nobody will let him, despite having previous fighting experience as the Wolf Deadman.
As Wolf Deadman, Julio was granted with superpowers, so he can easily crush something much more than normal humans. It's unknown if he's actually a skilled fighter for that, not all those who are involved in a fight are actual fighters, they can just be throwing power around. Orteca at least isn't, he got his ass handed off by Holy Live due to only rapidly spamming attacks in his triple Genomix form and completely failing to even hit him, in the first time he met an opponent he just can't overwhelm with his power, and as Anomalocaris Deadman, he entirely relies on his regeneration, and spends the fight taking far more hits than he gives, and later giving sloppy blows to Revice's debut (another time he can be matched).
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I feel like her death was so abrupt and meaningless when she still had a lot more to give, like Kinoshita was just halfheartedly trying to make it edgy again after chickening out of killing Aguilera. Akemi did a brave thing by gambling her life on that plan. She really deserved better than this, guys.
I agree that more Akemi is needed (and actually she didn't get much important screentime before becoming Giffdemos) but Akemi's actually featured
more
than intended. Kinda like Hiromi, she's intended to only make 1 appearence (in ep. 18), but was upgraded into a recurring supporting character on Sugihara's request:
https://www.kamen-rider-official.com/revice/39
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So what am I hoping for in the final arc? Well, Olteca lives, so I think it would nice if he could redeem himself and make up with Tamaki and Aguilera. I liked how his first comment was how foolish they look, since I've been thinking for a while that the WEEKEND uniforms look more like a 90s rock band than an organized resistance.
Actually I would appreciate here that Revice doesn't treat crimes lightly, unlike Zero-One in how for all the crimes he had committed, Gai ended up in a better place than much better, less guilty people like pretty much the main cast (Aruto, Fuwa, or Yua). Here Orteca gets arrested by the heroes upon his return, and even someone who is comparatively less evil in Aguilera would turn herself in after the fight ended, which shows lesser evil still doesn't justify itself over greater evil. You may agree with Weekend uniforms being foolish (and still, Orteca's someone in goop drenched mariachi-type of outfit), but without powers or backup, Orteca is currently reduced into this, he can only antagonize others by acting unpleasant and detestable.
Though Aguilera acknowledged that Deadman's crimes are no light matter, Orteca tried to make both Aguilera and Tamaki feel small about jumping ship. Not necessarily him, but when reduced into only talking shit, some villain's tactics are making heroes feel imperfect (e.g. "deep down, everyone's as ugly as them"), and thereby justify their own significantly deeper imperfections, in this case, perhaps so that Aguilera and Tamaki feel they're only 'pretending to be heroes' or such but deep down they're always malicious to the core like before, and Orteca's just "more honest".
But at least this still shows that Orteca still mistreats Aguilera and Tamaki, just in more ineffective manner, thus his last scene in ep. 28 when Giff ate him wasn't about cherishing their memories together, he lamented that he failed to conquer the world. His attempts to rule the world? Running the Deadman cult to gather sacrifices and revive Giff. That requires working together with Aguilera and Julio, that's why the flashback involved them, it's his attempts to conquer the world. It's a subversion of a reveal that seems like they have tiny human side, but turns out it's not. Like Asakura seemingly saving Mika, but turns out it's only done to use her as monster bait. Aguilera herself also later was willing to re-work with Orteca after being betrayed, doesn't mean Aguilera's still fond of him, it's because she had mutual goal.
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