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Hypothetical Kamen Rider Forms Discussion/Design Session
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02-13-2021, 01:27 PM
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806mtson
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
TheRaizin
It would actually be pretty odd to see Naki and Raiden to trade their zetsumerise keys for standard progrise keys since zetsumerise keys are focused on using for combat while progrise keys are for helping and stuff, as mentioned where 01's Sting Scorpion form can administer antidotes.
What would be entertaining is to see them use risers like Jin. A slash riser for Raiden, some sort of crossbow for Horobi, and a knuckle for Naki.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Future Rider Prism
I think the "helping or combat" thing has more to do with what device you're using the key in. Sting Scorpion makes antidotes for Zero-One, but when Horobi uses it, it makes deadly poison and destructive acids. Kinda like how real antidotes are sometimes made from the poison it's supposed to cure.
As for the new Keys for Naki and Raiden, I also think it would be cool, if only because the keys they use in the show itself don't give the cool "-ing" phrases. Naki's just says the animal's name, and Raiden's doesn't say anything at all. Why should Jin and Horobi have all the fun?
That being said, I'm also on board for MetsuBoJinRai using new belts. Though, I just figured Naki would use the Shotriser, since they joined AIMS in the end.
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Originally Posted by
Kurona
Also Flaming Tiger just straight up gives Aruto a couple of flamethrowers so I'm not sure how airtight that theory is!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Deepsea
They're for melting metal for search and rescue, this is totally true, and not a really bad justification.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Future Rider Prism
Well, both of these can also be true. I'm no expert, after all. I just go with whatever makes the most sense with the available information.
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Originally Posted by
FairyKing
I forget whether it was mentioned in the show itself or just something someone wrote on the wiki*, but IIRC the Breaking Mammoth mecha was specifically mentioned to be originally developed for large-scale rescue operations.
On the other hand, weren't some of Aruto's original set of Progrise keys created when Izu told Zea the abilities of the Magia they were up against, and asked it to develop a countermeasure? Which does in a way make them designed for rescue, or at least defense, but in a directly combative way.
*(and I hear that can be very unreliable, though I've yet to spot anything glaringly wrong... but I also haven't been looking closely...)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Future Rider Prism
I'm pretty sure Izu was the one who said it was for rescues. Hiden as a company is all about helping people, so why else would they have a giant satellite space robot?
And I've yet to see anyone present any evidence of the wiki having horrible inaccuracies. Pointless trivia and unmarked spoilers, maybe, but as far as I can tell, most of the stuff on there is taken from some official source.
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Originally Posted by
TheRaizin
Fire doesn't always equal combat, so maybe it could be used for land modification. It's not really a theory as it is a fun fact that Toei out on their website on Rising Hopper's description.
On that note, following the topic on Yaiba's upgrade form and using my self-invented "Toei eyes", Yaiba would use Fighting Jackal on her shotriser and just become
Valkyrie: Fighting Jackal
. It would largely just be Fighting Jackal, but the visor hiding the Valkyrie mask is removed, since the concept art says the Valkyrie mask is actually underneath. And then the white parts of the suit cleaned up to match the AIMs rider suit and the gold much more vibrant.
And then a v-cinema like form would be a
Sniping Cheetah
. A rampage gatling-like upgrade that makes use of the raider keys like Panda, Buffalo, Penguin, Lion, and maybe throw in Caucasus and Kangaroo for good measure.
Edit: It's Sniping Cheetah as to mirror how most of Vulcan's forms are brutish and heavy in design, yet Rampage in stark contrast is a lighter and more agile form.
Also, here are the potential uses for the Progrisekeys made by Hiden.
Rising Hopper: Unsure
Flying Falcon: The ability to fly is incredibly helpful
Sting Scorpion: Antidotes
Flaming Tiger: Not only is it a flamethrower, it's a blowtorch. Blowtorches can be used to get things out of the way
Biting Shark: Jaws of Life
Breaking Mammoth: It was designed to be used for Large Scale Rescue Operations.
Meanwhile, one What if form I have for Zero-One is "What if Zero-One used the Zetsumerisekeys to get new forms? How would they look like?" For the Mammoth Zetsumerisekey, I think it needs to be a more "Mighty Action X"-like form than the Breaking Mammoth Progrisekey's "Suika Arms". Or maybe it could be the "PROTO-10 Watermelon Arms" to the Breaking Mammoth's "Suika Arms".
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