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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zi-O
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03-10-2022, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by
cosmicrescend0
Oh yeah this exactly. I watched both the first few episodes of Decade/Zi-O together to see which one I would save for another time, fully expecting Zi-O to take over my interest because of the premise alone, only for to be completely enamored at *gestures at Tsukasa being Tsukasa*.
Yeah, there's a lot more weird charisma to Tsukasa than to Sougo. (I think Sougo's a sweet kid, honestly. A little bland, but I don't really hate him or anything.) Tsukasa more easily fit into the Faiz/Kabuto mold of Prickly Asshole, which helped nail down some of his personality in the premiere. He had a unique angle on it, but it wasn't some bold new take on a Kamen Rider or whatever. But it worked! You almost
immediately
wanted to see what this dude would do as a Kamen Rider.
With Sougo... I mean, he's the most unique of all the Heisei Riders, because I'm an episode in and I'm about zero percent invested in him.
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Originally Posted by
cosmicrescend0
There is something that I've seen everyone agree about Zi-O's anniversary content: the monster designs *rock*. I really love the Bulid one, excited to see the others again!
I do like the Another/S.I.C. monster designs. There's something about Build But His Mouth Opens that is some
real real nightmare fuel
. Starting to regret having all of these Figuarts looking at me!
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Originally Posted by
Enchilada645
How does everyone feel about our OP for this season? Over Quartzer.
The credit sequence is good (I'm into them treating the Heisei Era shows like a museum; that's a clever touch), but I've never been into the song. I'd first heard it a couple years ago, when I streamed the
*deep breath and a look at Apple Music*
Heisei Kamen Rider 20th Works Memorial Best 2 album. It's very EDM pop, which isn't so much my thing. It's like Ex-Aid's theme, where it's an okay show opening that I don't plan to listen to outside that experience.
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Originally Posted by
Future Rider Prism
Although, now that I think about it, I do wish they had focused on some things a bit more, or earlier. Like, why is Sougo so sure he wants to be a king in the first place?
Feels sort of crucial, yeah!
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Originally Posted by
Switchblade
I think we'll get to what is probably my most persistent complaint about Zi-O with the next episode, I think (longtime Tokunation readers may guess what it is), but I'll also throw this bucket of water on the premiere: the first episode's pacing is nuts. I've always felt that this episode has about two episodes' worth of plot crammed into it. That sounds like it shouldn't work and it doesn't. I know it was probably easier and cheaper to throw Sento and Banjou into the first arc since they and the Build sets were still available, but saving them until episode two or three would have really helped give the new characters and concepts a chance to breathe before the tributes start.
More than anything, I'm not sure I'd've started with the in media res opening for Sougo? Like, Oma Zi-O, yeah, sure, absolutely. It's like the Rider War from Decade, or the Turned Out To Be Non-Canonical opening from Gaim. It instantly helps calibrate the audience's expectations. But cutting from that to Sougo on Tsukuyomi's ship? I don't think that works! It's needlessly confusing, because we don't have a sense of who Sougo is as a character yet. Like, give the audience
five minutes
to see him as some dopey teenager, before asking him to react to her news. That doesn't seem like a huge ask?
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Originally Posted by
FreshToku
Not to say that I'll certainly have anything or will say something about every single episode, but I hope you don't mind me just taking your thread as an excuse to talk about my own experiences beyond acknowledging your own comments.
Why would I mind? I'm doing the same thing! I'd be
thrilled
to hear about your Journey Through The Decades.
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Originally Posted by
FreshToku
Sougo's general personality and reactions to everything is like, bizarre and not necessarily in a good way, and I just held out hope some of his 'quirks' would make sense in hindsight. There is a way to make his declaration to be a benevolent overlord a good one, but if there is, this episode isn't there yet.
Yeah, like, I feel like I've seen a whole bunch of villainous characters on Kamen Rider shows whose goals could accurately be defined as Benevolent Dictators. (At random: Saga, Genm, Adel, Houjou...) It's a pretty big recurring trope, and it's
super weird
that this episode doesn't really play it as a gigantic red flag.
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