[Sentai]

Didn't know what catagory to put this under, so bear with me here.

The new combined forms of the mech/zords seem to be getting more elaborate. I say elaborate but what I mean is: It's like they take all the mech/zords in the series, draw little pictures of them on darts, throw them at a board and see what happened. Bingo you have an Explosion. Does anyone else miss the old way? (I'm going to use the amwerican terms now because I don't know all the Japanese ones, so please again: Bear with me) The original Ultrazord was sleek and clean, for example. So was the Thunder Ultra, Ninja and Shogan Ultra, Zeo and even Turbo. But lately they've been getting overly-complicated. I think Baltmatrix put it best when he called them a cluster-you-know-what. Because thats what they became. Even the new one in Shinkenger looks close to the line of silly. (What about Gosei? Gosei is perfect, shut up) Gokai had a simple ultra combination. Somehow making a Dinosaur/Pirate/Indy Car combination work. And I was serious up there. Gosei, somehow, made a multi-headed monster work. In the show. I'll admit the toy looks far less epic, but thats the way of the world. I just wish they'd go back to the cleaner designs. Go-Buster looks alright, so far. But we'll see.

[ZeoRangerV]

I'm gonna put it out there and say I hate the Thunder and Zeo Ultrazords. I'd rather have a big pile of robots where every component is visibly clear than "mecha hides in the giant carrier hides out of sight".

[PkmnMstr]

Engine Oh G-12 is actually one of my favorite mechas. And right now, I actually don't remember the old ultrazords. I'll go look those up now and make edits to this post later.

Nope, don't like the early ultras. G-12 has them beat. The Shinkenger one was more clustery, but still cool.

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

I'm gonna put it out there and say I hate the Thunder and Zeo Ultrazords. I'd rather have a big pile of robots where every component is visibly clear than "mecha hides in the giant carrier hides out of sight".

Okay, I see your point there. The White Tigerzord was pretty much useless inside of Tor. But the Zeo's weren't always hidden inside. They did have that laying down aircraft carrier looking mode. Where they were all outside.

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by PkmnMstr

Engine Oh G-12 is actually one of my favorite mechas. And right now, I actually don't remember the old ultrazords. I'll go look those up now and make edits to this post later.

Nope, don't like the early ultras. G-12 has them beat. The Shinkenger one was more clustery, but still cool.

I don't understand that. G-12 looks like a complete mess. Peices going together just so they'd be together, no real.. cohension. I think is the misspelled word I'm looking for. And the one from Shinken is just a mess. Half the thing isn't even attached to the actual megazord! The megazord just rides on it.

[PkmnMstr]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

I don't understand that. G-12 looks like a complete mess. Peices going together just so they'd be together, no real.. cohension. I think is the misspelled word I'm looking for. And the one from Shinken is just a mess. Half the thing isn't even attached to the actual megazord! The megazord just rides on it.

I understand your point of view. Very well actually. It's just that over time, I've come to really enjoy things that are absurd. And that's exactly what the cluster mechas are. I know they're together for the sake of being together, but somehow, that's exactly why I like them. Why stick all the mechas into one? Because why not? Lol.

I was actually hoping something like that would happen in Gokaiger, because a massive cluster consisting of Gokai-Oh, Magidragon, Pat Striker, Gao Lion, Furaimaru, Machalcon, and GoJyuJin, would've been absolutely bonkers.(maybe even Variblune too)

In general my opinions of everything tend to converge to being positive. If I don't like something at first, I keep at it and it eventually grows on me. Goseiger sort of did that. It's not my favorite series, but I don't hate on it some of the others. It's a great show.

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by PkmnMstr

Goseiger sort of did that. It's not my favorite series, but I don't hate on it some of the others. It's a great show.

Take that, Haters!

I understand where you're coming from. I do. And I like the rest of the Go-Onger mechs. Especailly Valvemax (Whatever the Japanese name is). Just not sure about the cluster-type ultra deal.

And I know what you mean about Gokai. But honestly they did alright with it. I mean, who else could've combied a Dinosaur/Indy Car/and Galleon into a mech that looked decent?

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Okay, I see your point there. The White Tigerzord was pretty much useless inside of Tor. But the Zeo's weren't always hidden inside. They did have that laying down aircraft carrier looking mode. Where they were all outside.

Yeah, that mode I did like.

[RiderSkyward]

G-12 is coherent! Well aside from the random kibble bits on the sides of the legs, but otherwise I think it's pretty damn slick. G-12 got me back into rangers, then into sentai then into kamen rider. So I wouldn't be on this site if it wasn't for G-12 =] And Gosei hyper is a bit of a cluster, Grand Gosei great is magnificent though! Such an epic combo.

[Shinken Red]

This ^. grand gosie is still one of my fav combinations. As for G12, i loved go-onger from start to finsh so i loved the whole engine idea. when you think about it its staggering that 12 huge vecihals can combine into basically an Engine Super God. (If you look at it that way.)
In the same respect I liked the ninja and shogun ultrazord (although titanus was a bit much) but I still prefer cluster (you know whats).

I just love seeing every part being used somewhere. I guess that's why i didn't really like the final gokiger mech.

Maybe if someone took a part from every goki machine and attached them to every limb
(for instance magi dragon wing on goki blue's, shinken blue leg on goki green,(im not even going to being to try and spell his name) minizord from hurricanger on goki yellow's and patstrker on pink's leg with machalcon in the center or something I might buy it.