[xSkullheartx]

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Originally Posted by ljacone

Tommy as the White Ranger was not only the leader, but the most powerful Ranger by a wide margin. As the Green Ranger, yeah, his power ebbed and flowed, but as the White Ranger he was large and in charge, kicking butt and taking names.

Eric cannot compete with Tommy rocking the White Light.

Explain how Tommy as the White Ranger was the strongest ranger "by a wide margin" when every season that happened after MMPR supposedly was stronger then the last? I agree that Tommy is strong,but I don't agree that the White Ranger powers are the strongest.

As for him being a leader,fine.But it was mostly just him taking ideas from the team (or mostly Billy) and rolling with it.That or asking Saba for advice.Most the other sixth rangers didnt have those perks.Heck,some of them were the advice givers.

Like was said earlier in the tournament,power is good but to be ultimate other things have to be taken into account.Sure Tommy was a leader,but was he an ultimate leader,or just someone we all think is cool because he was the first ranger to have extra powers?

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by xSkullheartx

Explain how Tommy as the White Ranger was the strongest ranger "by a wide margin" when every season that happened after MMPR supposedly was stronger then the last? I agree that Tommy is strong,but I don't agree that the White Ranger powers are the strongest.

While I see where you're coming from, that's only really true when it comes to Zeo and Turbo. There's not really anything that suggests the Space powers were stronger than the Turbo ones, or anything following that.

[conundrum]

If you want to argue about power, how about ones that are from 3000 years in the future? Every S.P.D round someone said "well, they have future tech so that makes them more powerful/better". No one mentions this with Eric?

And is Tommy really the most competent ranger? During his time he:
1: Lost several sets of powers (one time it was out of his control, but the other times he was team leader).
2: He was brainwashed and controlled by the enemy TWICE.
3. He got himself frozen in amber.

(Yes, I understand the behind the scenes reasoning for all of the above but how it played out onscreen makes it canon.)

[xSkullheartx]

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Originally Posted by conundrum

If you want to argue about power, how about ones that are from 3000 years in the future? Every S.P.D round someone said "well, they have future tech so that makes them more powerful/better". No one mentions this with Eric?

And is Tommy really the most competent ranger? During his time he:
1: Lost several sets of powers (one time it was out of his control, but the other times he was team leader).
2: He was brainwashed and controlled by the enemy TWICE.
3. He got himself frozen in amber.

(Yes, I understand the behind the scenes reasoning for all of the above but how it played out onscreen makes it canon.)

Don't forget that also while he was the supposedly "most powerful ranger",that he lost his memories,was turned back to a child,tossed into a storybook,turned into liquid,and turned into a brick.

[xSkullheartx]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

While I see where you're coming from, that's only really true when it comes to Zeo and Turbo. There's not really anything that suggests the Space powers were stronger than the Turbo ones, or anything following that.

Pretty sure most of the seasons after MMPR did some kind of crossover where they teamed up with last seasons group and totally annihilated the last seasons main villain,in like one hit.

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by xSkullheartx

Pretty sure most of the seasons after MMPR did some kind of crossover where they teamed up with last seasons group and totally annihilated the last seasons main villain,in like one hit.

And that means....? And you're also going with the premise of brute power means a thing. Experience means something to, and after leading Three Teams I think tommy kinda has that won over Eric.

[Matrixbeast]

When Tommy couldn't get a straight answer out of Dimetria, he kept asking before Alpha 6 told him to change how he asked the question.
He couldn't figure it out and stormed away complaining about how Zordon could always help.

That alone summed up Tommy perfectly. He wasn't the leader. He was just a field commander. He was only doing what Zordon told him to do. His plans were to just look at someone smarter (Like Zordon or Billy) and say "Yeah, do that!"

He didn't know what he was doing, he was just a walking sword that someone else would point in the direction of where to fight.
(Yes, he does become smarter in Dino Thunder, but this is MMPR Tommy we're talking about)

Dimetria may have been useless as a mentor, but she did something Zordon didn't. She didn't coddle the rangers. She didn't tell them everything. She helped the rangers grow by teaching them to solve problems on their own, and when Tommy didn't have Zordon and Billy to tell him exactly what they needed to do, you could see Tommy's ability to lead dropping, too.

He has the skills, but back in MMPR through Turbo, he sure as hell didn't have the brains.

[conundrum]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

And that means....? And you're also going with the premise of brute power means a thing. Experience means something to, and after leading Three Teams I think tommy kinda has that won over Eric.

Leading three teams, of what, 5/6 people each? Eric leads a much larger and more diverse (i.e. not made up of his closest friends) group.

And you completely ignored our list of all of Tommy's screw ups, such as losing the powers of tbose teams he led. It might not be his fault directly, but he was the one in charge...

[Sentai]

Yet Eric is losing

I love Switch's number generator, I really does.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Yet Eric is losing

Nostalgia is a powerful tool.
I'm pretty sure the reason why this team isn't MMPR and Andros is because everyone (Like myself) is bitching and moaning to look at the character beyond nostalgia.

Put simply, people wanted Tommy. We were able to argue why shouldn't be a Red or Green/Black, but, eventually, the nostalgia caught up, and he'll sweep the Sixth competition.

It's like watching a fan vote poll of strongest/best superheroes and seeing Batman as an option. We all know who's gonna win. It's second place who will be more interesting to see.