[TheFightingSpirit]

Yeah, you know what, the audio was pretty shoddy now you mention it. Actually really bad... Often the music was louder than dialogue. In most shows and films that would mean an automatic sacking for the audio mixers and masterers!

And yet they can get away with it in a modern day power rangers show?

I'm really confused.

Yeah I'm only an amateur and yeah I did a degree in music technology (and I'm not at all trying to sound elitist here), but the fact I could probably do a better job in a really short amount of time compared to these "professionals", well, that's pretty terrible really, isn't it.

Are they paying these guys so little they can't be bothered to do a decent job? Or is Johnnie T/Saban/Nick suggesting they don't have to do a decent job because it's a kids show? Is the problem a time limit imposed on them by some random exec who's never watch an episode of PR in his life?

Frankly none of those are good enough excuses. If a bunch of lazy arse 19 year old students could get their course work in on time, then I fully expect real, proper, paid professionals to do passable, vaguely consistant work within a time limit.

Am I being picky? I don't think I'm being picky.

[xSkullheartx]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

I thought Troy fit Marvelous decently enough.

The thing is,for Megaforce he was broody and really bland.All of a sudden for Super Megaforce were supposed to believe he's now cocky and super confident?

I mean,compare the suit actors for Gosei Red and Gokai Red.Gosei Red fought with determination and vigor.Gokai Red fought with cockiness and as little movement as possible.

In other words it's more of a problem with the suit actors then the actors themselves.

[Starscream Gaga]

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Originally Posted by rego

Both my wife and sister who have never seen gokaiger asked why they looked like pirates watching the episode....take that how you will.

That'd be because they are pretty obviously pirates. Their logos a skull and crossbones, straight up, which is on absolutely everything from the robots to the weapons, their helmets are clearly designed as pirate hats, especially Silver's bandanna, they wear gold trim jackets and boots, they fight with sabers and pistols and later a cannon in the shape of a pirate ship, Silver's logo is an anchor and he transforms with a golden anchor that changes his spear to also resemble an anchor, they fight in a Pirate Ship that transforms into a huge pirate with a giant cannon ball firing cannon in its chest, while Silver's robot also has a gigantic anchor adorning its chest and every mecha is controlled by a ship's wheel, etc. The list goes on. I'm really surprised that people are willing to ignore such an obvious glossing over and the usual "kids are stupid" attitude from Saban. Heck, with how crazy popular Jake and the Neverland Pirates is with kids, it also seems like a missed opportunity to cash in too.

Sure, you can cut the role call with the pirate flag and the scenes inside the pirate ship and things like the treasure chests, but that doesn't change the fact that anyone can see the trend going on with the series' designs.

Still, I do want to see the episode and make my own opinion for it. I just got through the end of Megaforce to get ready for it, but I can't find it online for Australians anywhere. I'm also interested to see if they wanted to photoshop over Gosei Red making a tornado why they didn't choose the other wind-based Red (Ninja Storm).

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga

That'd be because they are pretty obviously pirates. Their logos a skull and crossbones, straight up, which is on absolutely everything from the robots to the weapons, their helmets are clearly designed as pirate hats, especially Silver's bandanna, they wear gold trim jackets and boots, they fight with sabers and pistols and later a cannon in the shape of a pirate ship, Silver's logo is an anchor and he transforms with a golden anchor that changes his spear to also resemble an anchor, they fight in a Pirate Ship that transforms into a huge pirate with a giant cannon ball firing cannon in its chest, while Silver's robot also has a gigantic anchor adorning its chest and every mecha is controlled by a ship's wheel, etc. The list goes on. I'm really surprised that people are willing to ignore such an obvious glossing over and the usual "kids are stupid" attitude from Saban. Heck, with how crazy popular Jake and the Neverland Pirates is with kids, it also seems like a missed opportunity to cash in too.

Because you see a pirate, as you know the context. This isn't like where Megaforce literally left 'Goseiger' on the cards, the suits can allude to pirates but they also don't have to BE pirate suits if you don't want them to be. Just as much as you say the helmets look like hats or bandanna, they also look like...helmets. Coats are just...coats. Gold trims are regal and fit with the anniversary and so on. That is the difference.

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Originally Posted by Sentai

I thought Troy fit Marvelous decently enough.

I thought everyone worked by Noah. Noah the insecure nerd who wants to be more like Troy, grabs two swords and starts taking whole armies down on his own. Somehow mastering twin blades, when up to this point he fought with a bow...

[ironmouse]

I am on the fence to be honest. I feel like I want to kinda like it and be ok with it but lol. Gokaiger was one of my favorite seasons so it holds a special place with me. I know I am going to get like this next year when they adapt Kyoryuger urrrggg.

It was nice to see Gokaiger footage but honestly the characters DO NOT FIT. Like someone said before me the only people who somewhat fit their characters are Emma and Gia. I mean every time I saw Gokai red footage and immediately thought MARVELOUS. Like stated earlier... how can Troy go from the style of Gosei Red to Gokai Red. It just doesn't make any sense. They are two completely different people. And Noah being a weapons expert omg. As awkward as they try to make Jake I don't think he can get as awkward as Hakase. Honestly I am kinda glad they made him derp out about being super mega.

I actually did enjoy the ending when they were in the classroom and the teacher called back to the question he asked in class at the beginning of the previous season. That gave me the fuzzes and I felt like it was a nice touch.

Is anyone bummed that there will be no navi? :< I loved that robo bird. IF ONLY ROBO KNIGHT TRANSFORMED INTO ROBO BIRD. Dead lol.

I am sad about the changing and not having the morphemes call everything out. I remember watching Gokaiger and every time they would change I would yell out haha because I'm a weirdo like that.

I have a feeling the Black to Green is going to be the running gag for this season.

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Locke

I thought everyone worked by Noah. Noah the insecure nerd who wants to be more like Troy, grabs two swords and starts taking whole armies down on his own. Somehow mastering twin blades, when up to this point he fought with a bow...

This will probably be more of an issue to me when they adapt the "Blue is outdone sword fighting" episode, but considering this is a show where the rangers are going to be going from martial artists to sword fighters to feral fighters in a matter of minutes, going from a bow to swords doesn't feel like that much of a big deal.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

This will probably be more of an issue to me when they adapt the "Blue is outdone sword fighting" episode, but considering this is a show where the rangers are going to be going from martial artists to sword fighters to feral fighters in a matter of minutes, going from a bow to swords doesn't feel like that much of a big deal.

I still feel that was a bigger issue than most, with people saying that Troy and Jake didn't work but I thought both worked fine. Jake probably the most out of the whole team. I just don't think a lot of people can stop seeing Gokaiger while watching this, and that is the worst way to watch a show.

[Starscream Gaga]

I think the yammering helps the situation. The suit actor can be acting as cocky as hell and unfair as he likes, shooting guys in the face and using body shields, but if his smirks and scoffs are replaced with Troy telling us how awesome Super Mega mode is the whole time, the glaring personality difference is much less noticeable. Just look at the end of the fight, change the scoff Marvelous had while brushing his chin and looking at the defeated Gormin to a "YEAH!" As Troy looks at the defeated X-Borgs and the whole thing comes off differently.

Jake and Noah, eh. I feel that later episodes will look more out of place. But once again, the suit actor can be clumsily dodging attacks and running away from groups, but if Jake's telling us how powerful he is, it looks like everything is a lot more purposeful. We'll see how they work out Noah's sword fighting skills next episode, which is adapting the episode all about Blue's excellent sword skills.

All in all I thought the episode was OK, although it definitely had its problems. Holding it to Megaforce's standard, it was pretty good. Scenes like the school and mall seem amazing nowadays, but they'd be fairly standard in Pre-Saban. Outside of the mall and school, none of the invasion was original footage and a lot of the more violent shots were cut, so I wasn't particularly shocked at the whole invasion.

[Battlizer]

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga

I think the yammering helps the situation. The suit actor can be acting as cocky as hell and unfair as he likes, shooting guys in the face and using body shields, but if his smirks and scoffs are replaced with Troy telling us how awesome Super Mega mode is the whole time, the glaring personality difference is much less noticeable. Just look at the end of the fight, change the scoff Marvelous had while brushing his chin and looking at the defeated Gormin to a "YEAH!" As Troy looks at the defeated X-Borgs and the whole thing comes off differently.

Jake and Noah, eh. I feel that later episodes will look more out of place. But once again, the suit actor can be clumsily dodging attacks and running away from groups, but if Jake's telling us how powerful he is, it looks like everything is a lot more purposeful. We'll see how they work out Noah's sword fighting skills next episode, which is adapting the episode all about Blue's excellent sword skills.

All in all I thought the episode was OK, although it definitely had its problems. Holding it to Megaforce's standard, it was pretty good. Scenes like the school and mall seem amazing nowadays, but they'd be fairly standard in Pre-Saban. Outside of the mall and school, none of the invasion was original footage and a lot of the more violent shots were cut, so I wasn't particularly shocked at the whole invasion.

Yeah this pretty much sums up my thoughts as well.

Also, the Blue ranger sword episode comes from the episode after next, I believe. Next episode adapts the missile monster/Dekaranger/SPD crossover, though I suspect they're cutting out Doggie Crugger. Although....his voice actor HAS done work as current Saban monsters before, so who knows.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Let me start by saying I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way, this isn't me trying to take a jab at Power Rangers because of any kind of elitism or sentai purism.

That being said there seems to be a pretty apparent willingness to ignore blatant editing issues, dialogue and sound effect inconsistencies, and the general lack of a decent plot in this episode by ranger fans. It seems people are ready and willing to accept a subpar product, what this episode was, simply because of the spectacle of it being a new Power Rangers series.

And unfortunately Saban will continue to produce this kind of substandard series as long as people are willing to except such a thing.

Well I could say the same for a lot of Sentai and Rider fans in regards to certain series.

No they'll continue to do so as long as enough kids are watching to keep ratings acceptable just like they did in the 90s.