[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

No clue what a fan-consensus "average" sentai would look like. This fandom is so polarized, I had no idea a "middle" existed.

I would've never believed in the middle ground until I saw Megaranger

[Locke]

Gobus 38.

Although not as bad as the last episode, this episode was oddly narrow minded. I mean I love Ace as much as the next guy, but not only is it now no longer the strongest single Buster machine - why Ace specifically in the first place?

Considering you need the others to use the Combine Operation, and that J and Jin's machines operate outside of the Core Buster Machines surely it makes sense to gather information on all of them? I get that eventually the focus shifts more to what effect the machines have on the body when used for prolonged periods, but it still seemed odd to use only one example.

Still the fact I respond this way surely shows the strength of the mech stuff in this show, which I guess is odd, as the mech line is the main toyline and this is the best I've ever seen it used. Usually the toy ad is literally tacked on at the end of the show with no wider purpose. It's funny how much a show largely written off by everyone gets right, much more so than a lot of the shit in the sentai canon.

Obviously it'd never happen after the shows failure, but I would be really interested to see a sentai taken to Gobus logical extremes, centred around a bunch of ace mech pilots. I guess I have an idea for a fanfiction if I ever write one.

The designs for the mechs in this show are fantastic as well. There were missteps, Epsilon looked pathetic with its giant knees, the combination of Jin and J's vehicles is a floppy mess - the closest this show has to a true clusterfuck - and when Ace combines with Two and Three...it gets a huge gut and a moustache?!

But when it comes to combining LOTS of vehicles this show is pretty damn incredible, as they still come out of the other side looking like a giant robot and not like a kid just had two litres of cherryade to himself and played buckeroo.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Innit.

While we're here fandom, where next? Probably not going to jump straight into Gokaiger although I'm hungry for it. So instead Goaranger, Gekiranger or Maskman?

Of the three, I'd say Gekiranger. Partially because I haven't seen the other two, but mostly because it's a really good show if you can get past the Jan-speak.

[MidoGreen]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha

Yeah, episode 37 really sucks. Another fake wedding episode of a sentai. Yawn.

But regarding my thoughts on Enter...

If you don't think he's awesome by, like, episode 5... I wonder if you're ever going to. It's not so much that he's done anything major yet, as it is that he's calmer, more calculating, more cynical, and way smarter than the average sentai villain general. His presence is just so different from the others that it's hard for him not to stand out in the crowd. In fact, he's so different that he actually wins sometimes! (And even when he fails, it's rarely his fault -- it usually has to do with Messiah or Escape interfering with his plans.)

For me, it's also cool to see a villain who's more interested in learning about the real world and assimilating information than he is in destroying (or taking over) things. In that way, he's a lot like Brainiac or Agent Smith. I get the feeling that he's more fascinated by the Go-Busters than he is contemptuous of them, and that's interesting to me. If Enter is contemptuous of anyone it's Messiah -- who was kind of the bane of Enter's existence. I don't know that I've seen a dynamic like Enter and Messiah's in sentai -- where the general openly thinks his master is a cock.

Whether or not I think he's the best sentai villain ever, I certainly think Enter is certainly the most interesting character on this show.

Also, he's played by a super compelling actor.

I think you perfectly summed up why I like Enter so much. Well that and when he revealed his plan it was on the edge of my seat with excitement.

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Originally Posted by Locke

Gobus 38.

Although not as bad as the last episode, this episode was oddly narrow minded. I mean I love Ace as much as the next guy, but not only is it now no longer the strongest single Buster machine - why Ace specifically in the first place?

Considering you need the others to use the Combine Operation, and that J and Jin's machines operate outside of the Core Buster Machines surely it makes sense to gather information on all of them? I get that eventually the focus shifts more to what effect the machines have on the body when used for prolonged periods, but it still seemed odd to use only one example.

Still the fact I respond this way surely shows the strength of the mech stuff in this show, which I guess is odd, as the mech line is the main toyline and this is the best I've ever seen it used. Usually the toy ad is literally tacked on at the end of the show with no wider purpose. It's funny how much a show largely written off by everyone gets right, much more so than a lot of the shit in the sentai canon.

Obviously it'd never happen after the shows failure, but I would be really interested to see a sentai taken to Gobus logical extremes, centred around a bunch of ace mech pilots. I guess I have an idea for a fanfiction if I ever write one.

The designs for the mechs in this show are fantastic as well. There were missteps, Epsilon looked pathetic with its giant knees, the combination of Jin and J's vehicles is a floppy mess - the closest this show has to a true clusterfuck - and when Ace combines with Two and Three...it gets a huge gut and a moustache?!

But when it comes to combining LOTS of vehicles this show is pretty damn incredible, as they still come out of the other side looking like a giant robot and not like a kid just had two litres of cherryade to himself and played buckeroo.

Go-Busters really shown on the mecha aspect of Super Sentai. Towards the end of Gokaiger I found myself begging for Insarn to not make the MOTW big because while I liked Gokaioh, the fights just got boringly formulaic. Then we have Go-Busters which treats the Megazord just as seriously, if not more than the Metaroid. In those first five episodes, it really showed you could use what is essentially a toy commercial as an effective narrative device.

[Locke]

Yeah Gobus is the only show where I'm happy for a final showdown to be between two robots. Every other show I find myself hating how the later in the series it gets, the more fights become centred around giant stuff and the more the much MUCH better henshin hero stuff falls to the wayside.

It's funny as well, because shows like Kyoryuger, Goseiger and Shinkenger all had decent giant stuff at the start, but as the later episodes focused on the mech stuff more the designs and giant fights...got worse?

[MidoGreen]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Yeah Gobus is the only show where I'm happy for a final showdown to be between two robots. Every other show I find myself hating how the later in the series it gets, the more fights become centred around giant stuff and the more the much MUCH better henshin hero stuff falls to the wayside.

It's funny as well, because shows like Kyoryuger, Goseiger and Shinkenger all had decent giant stuff at the start, but as the later episodes focused on the mech stuff more the designs and giant fights...got worse?

Overall, the only other series I feel hold a candle to the Go-Busters in mecha goodness are Boukenger and Gekiranger. Boukenger for its very mechanical designs going up against wide variety of enemies the Negative Syndicates pit against them. And Gekiranger for them not being machines but spiritual avatars that battle against the enemy that has enlarged itself, continuing the great martial arts fighting. Honorably mention to Magiranger.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by MidoGreen

Overall, the only other series I feel hold a candle to the Go-Busters in mecha goodness are Boukenger and Gekiranger. Boukenger for its very mechanical designs going up against wide variety of enemies the Negative Syndicates pit against them. And Gekiranger for them not being machines but spiritual avatars that battle against the enemy that has enlarged itself, continuing the great martial arts fighting. Honorably mention to Magiranger.

Yeah I gotta admit, I may have given up on Boukenger, but the designs and implementation of the mecha stuff was SWEET.

Jungle Fury (as I've only fully seen the PR counterpart) certainly rivalled Bouken in design in all of that glorious sleekness, but not so much in implementation. I dunno, cheap ass cockpits like Goseiger aside, I like seeing them actually steer it. The way the Jungle Fury Rangers stood in an empty room full of dry ice was really lame to me.

On the opposite end of the scale I thought the Mystic Force zord concept was awesome (BECOMING the zords? AWESOME. It makes so much sense for the show as well unlike - using the example again - Goseiger where a bunch of angels had....a giant robot?!), but found the designs impressively bland, especially with the overuse of TERRIBLE CG.

[Locke]

Gobus 39.

A kid in a sentai episode that isn't so awful in every regard that I feel like my blood is going to boil until it cooks me alive?! Maybe Gobus is finally picking up again?! I guess it is about time to start gearing up for the climax, so it makes sense.

It's nice to see the heroes be proactive, even if Enter kinda made it easy for them. And it was nice to see Ryuuji has a dream for after the fighting, and one that has been firmly established throughout the show. Honestly lately we've been seeing more and more glimpses of the great character Ryuuji was at the start of the show.

I get that Hiromu is the better fighter, and an ace mech pilot, but I sometimes wonder if Ryuuji's badass loving father figure routine would make him better suited as the leader. I get that his weakness makes him unstable, but as he proved, it also makes him a fierce weapon when backed into a corner. I'd say Hiromu's weakness is much more crippling.

I also can't help but wonder if the show agrees with me considering the amount of focus he gets, more so than anyone else. If nothing else, he's so damn handsome >.< in such an immensely ugly cast - minus Escape, gorgeous lovely Escape - it's nice to have such a handsome guy around.

Not only was this a decent episode for Ryuuji, it was a decent episode for the production as well. I think Gobus is the only sentai show that I've watched that is able to satisfy in every area. Mech stuff = fantastic. Special effects = fantastic. Unmorphed figths = fantastic.

Only real disappointed is another week, another amazingly lame Messiah Metaroid. If we're going to focus the whole show around these things, can't you make at least one of them worth following?

[Paladin]

Imagination Station (the group that first attempted ToQGer) has released subs for the first two episodes of Abaranger!

http://anotherimaginationstation.wor...aranger-01-02/

Definitely have to check this out; Aba subs are very rare.

[MidoGreen]

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Imagination Station (the group that first attempted ToQGer) has released subs for the first two episodes of Abaranger!

http://anotherimaginationstation.wor...aranger-01-02/

Definitely have to check this out; Aba subs are very rare.

Abaranger subs!? I've been waiting for this for so many years !