In the name of the moon I'll punish you! Sailor Moon thread

Dr Kain · 11-16-2014, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga

Such a nice way to define the hero of your story.

"My boyfriend died so I kill myself, even though it leads to the destruction of my planet".

Just awful.

She is an ignorant, shut in, little spoiled, selfish princess. I see what she did being far more realistic than other heroes who always have their character shields on max no matter what happens.

Starscream Gaga · 11-17-2014, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

She is an ignorant, shut in, little spoiled, selfish princess. I see what she did being far more realistic than other heroes who always have their character shields on max no matter what happens.

That's definitely how she acts, but not how the story portrays her or how the other characters think of her.

The fact that nobody ever mentions the world-dooming suicide attempt ever again (while simultaneously everyone, villains and heroes included, talk about how selfless and perfect Serenity is) is evidence of the sloppy writing Naoko considered "romantic".

Crystal is really plugging that they'll make the future "different from the past" and that "Usagi is Usagi, regardless of her past life" similar to how PGSM did, so I really hope the second suicide is changed, but I'm still not hopeful. I HATE that the only reason the world wasn't destroyed was because the Crystal kept a suicidal Usagi alive, rather then the world actually being saved because Sailor Moon is even slightly heroic.

That's one of the many things that shows that the original anime's characterization was so much better then manga's. Compare the two Dark Kingdom finales. In one, Usagi watches as each of her friends are slaughtered one by one protecting her until eventually she is forced to kill a brainwashed Mamoru herself. Instead of curling in a ball and giving up, she stands up and fights and using her own power saves the world from Metalia, even though it takes absolutely everything she has. In the manga, Mamoru is similarly killed during the climactic battle with Metalia, but instead of standing strong and saving the world she stabs herself in the stomach while her (all still living) friends who have given up everything to protect her howl and beg for her not to. She only defeats Metalia because the Crystal resurrects her and Mamoru's dead bodies so that they can use their powers together.

It's just... Nope. I could never forgive Usagi for that and for the rest of the manga I just rolled my eyes and sighed every time another character told us how Serenity was perfect and selfless and strong and yadayada, which was all the time.

Dr Kain · 11-17-2014, 08:47 AM

It's never mentioned again because Usagi not growing up as a princess made her a better person. She is still selfish, but she cares about her friends and family, which she clearly did not before. Usagi also matures as the story goes on.

GuardianAngel87 · 11-22-2014, 10:51 PM

More good news. The new dubbed episodes, at least episodes 24 through 36 anyway, are now available to watch on Hulu. Awesome. Keep it up, Viz Media!

FormerTitanium · 11-30-2014, 07:51 PM

DOES ANYONE.... HEre know if Vizmedia license Sailor Moon Crystal and has any plans to release them state side on blu-ray?

Dr Kain · 11-30-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FormerTitanium

DOES ANYONE.... HEre know if Vizmedia license Sailor Moon Crystal and has any plans to release them state side on blu-ray?

Yes, they have licensed it, they will be bringing it out, but it sounds like they won't be doing so until they finish with the first anime. I also believe it has to do with Toei not wanting it out in any other country before the series is fully out on BD in Japan. As such, we shouldn't expect to see Crystal released in the US until mid-2016 at the earliest.

FormerTitanium · 11-30-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Yes, they have licensed it, they will be bringing it out, but it sounds like they won't be doing so until they finish with the first anime. I also believe it has to do with Toei not wanting it out in any other country before the series is fully out on BD in Japan. As such, we shouldn't expect to see Crystal released in the US until mid-2016 at the earliest.

Darn that long? was hoping to look forward to something next late year.

Dr Kain · 12-07-2014, 01:36 AM

I hate to say it, but I thought today's episode of Crystal was awful. The animation was choppy to the point where sometimes it looked like it was stuttering, the pacing was bad, it felt rushed, and it made very little sense.

WhiteRanger · 12-27-2014, 08:16 PM

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...r-pluto/.82667

Black moon arc news

Dr Kain · 12-28-2014, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteRanger

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...r-pluto/.82667

Black moon arc news

Honestly, I don't think that is news at all. We already knew it would be the second episode of Jan given it starts in chapter 14 of the manga.

11-17-2014, 02:46 AM	#312
Starscream Gaga GOKAIPOP Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,786	Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Kain She is an ignorant, shut in, little spoiled, selfish princess. I see what she did being far more realistic than other heroes who always have their character shields on max no matter what happens. That's definitely how she acts, but not how the story portrays her or how the other characters think of her. The fact that nobody ever mentions the world-dooming suicide attempt ever again (while simultaneously everyone, villains and heroes included, talk about how selfless and perfect Serenity is) is evidence of the sloppy writing Naoko considered "romantic". Crystal is really plugging that they'll make the future "different from the past" and that "Usagi is Usagi, regardless of her past life" similar to how PGSM did, so I really hope the second suicide is changed, but I'm still not hopeful. I HATE that the only reason the world wasn't destroyed was because the Crystal kept a suicidal Usagi alive, rather then the world actually being saved because Sailor Moon is even slightly heroic. That's one of the many things that shows that the original anime's characterization was so much better then manga's. Compare the two Dark Kingdom finales. In one, Usagi watches as each of her friends are slaughtered one by one protecting her until eventually she is forced to kill a brainwashed Mamoru herself. Instead of curling in a ball and giving up, she stands up and fights and using her own power saves the world from Metalia, even though it takes absolutely everything she has. In the manga, Mamoru is similarly killed during the climactic battle with Metalia, but instead of standing strong and saving the world she stabs herself in the stomach while her (all still living) friends who have given up everything to protect her howl and beg for her not to. She only defeats Metalia because the Crystal resurrects her and Mamoru's dead bodies so that they can use their powers together. It's just... Nope. I could never forgive Usagi for that and for the rest of the manga I just rolled my eyes and sighed every time another character told us how Serenity was perfect and selfless and strong and yadayada, which was all the time. __________________ Last edited by Starscream Gaga; 11-17-2014 at 03:10 AM..

11-30-2014, 07:51 PM	#315
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11-30-2014, 08:02 PM	#317
FormerTitanium Tali's Sidekick Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Inside a Tali-Box Posts: 3,492	Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Kain Yes, they have licensed it, they will be bringing it out, but it sounds like they won't be doing so until they finish with the first anime. I also believe it has to do with Toei not wanting it out in any other country before the series is fully out on BD in Japan. As such, we shouldn't expect to see Crystal released in the US until mid-2016 at the earliest. Darn that long? was hoping to look forward to something next late year. __________________ *Mr. Knuckleman!*

12-27-2014, 08:16 PM	#319
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