Kamen Rider Ghost Episode 4- "Astonishing Castle In The Sky!" Discussion

Neptune · 10-26-2015, 11:32 PM

This episode was a bit all over the place, plot-wise, but could've been worse. If I hadn't known beforehand about the Drive crossover thanks to this thread, the bit with Newton would've felt even more out-of-nowhere than it did. Takeru figuring out his ghost powers is cute and enjoyable and the fight scenes were enjoyable.

Spectre does look cool, though I'm surprised that the show would introduce another Rider this early. the shade of blue really goes well with all the black.

Matrixbeast · 10-27-2015, 12:42 AM

I have to watch the Drive crossover to figure out when he gets Newton? What?
Seriously, where did it come from?

GreenPsychoRanger · 10-27-2015, 12:57 AM

The Newton eyecon was already in existence. There has been NO story for it yet.

Matrixbeast · 10-27-2015, 01:03 AM

Did I miss something? When was it introduced? Did I blink and not catch a scene or something? When did that flashback to him happen? Or has it just...Been around and I'm just a forgetful asshole?
GODDAMMIT.

GoseiWonder · 10-27-2015, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I have to watch the Drive crossover to figure out when he gets Newton? What?
Seriously, where did it come from?

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Did I miss something? When was it introduced? Did I blink and not catch a scene or something? When did that flashback to him happen? Or has it just...Been around and I'm just a forgetful asshole?
GODDAMMIT.

I want a Yurusen plushie. I love that cheeky lil' bastard.

barnstenchfartface · 10-27-2015, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Did I miss something? When was it introduced? Did I blink and not catch a scene or something? When did that flashback to him happen? Or has it just...Been around and I'm just a forgetful asshole?
GODDAMMIT.

You didn't miss anything, because there isn't any thing to miss. In the Drive episode the Newton Eyecon was just...there. The plotline in Drive with Newton took place over a month, we never got a good explanation of where it came from. Now Takeru's only been Ghost for 11 days and apparently that all took place off-screen.

Let's not even talk about the fact that he already used Newton in Surprise Future.

It's bullshit, is all it is.

Matrixbeast · 10-27-2015, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder

I want a Yurusen plushie. I love that cheeky lil' bastard.

GODDAMIT YURUSEN I'LL EAT YOU.

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Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface

You didn't miss anything, because there isn't any thing to miss. In the Drive episode the Newton Eyecon was just...there. The plotline in Drive with Newton took place over a month, we never got a good explanation of where it came from. Now Takeru's only been Ghost for 11 days and apparently that all took place off-screen.

Let's not even talk about the fact that he already used Newton in Surprise Future.

It's bullshit, is all it is.

That's so fucking stupid. I don't even know how to express my thoughts.

IXRollOutIX · 10-27-2015, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I have to watch the Drive crossover to figure out when he gets Newton? What?
Seriously, where did it come from?

I'll give you a synopsis. Like Barn said, even if you do watch the crossover, it's still a little vague about the Eyecon anyway. Basically the leader of Neo-Shade found the Newton Eye somehow; somewhere. That part's never explained. As for how Ghost ends up with it...

Apparently about a week or so before the finale of Drive takes place, the Kamen Riders infiltrated a Neo-Shade base. A Ganma after the Eyecon intervenes during their attack, but Ghost fights it off and Drive ends up taking the Eye into custody. More recently, it was stolen from the research lab. The SCU tracks down the perp before the Ganma attacks again; Ghost shows up again too and this time finally destroys it. The thief escapes in the commotion but Shinnosuke retrieves the Eyecon; holding it allows him to see Ghosts apparently. The thief kidnaps Kiriko and holds her for ransom in exchange for Newton, so Takeru lets Shin keep the Eye until the case is resolved. The thief is revealed to be the leader of Neo-Shade and wants to use the Eyecon to lure Ganma into working for him so that he can revive his organization now that the Roidmudes are gone... or something like that. Shinnosuke saves Kiriko, catches the bad guy, and finally Ghost and Yurusen take Newton with them.

IXRollOutIX · 10-27-2015, 11:10 AM

Alright, so I watched that episode again and Shin does in fact say "a month ago" when referring to attacking the Neo-Shade base... Which sort of screws up the timeline with Ghost. Takeru attacked the Ganma then, and comes back to get the Eyecon a month later. But within Ghost, Takeru has only been a Kamen Rider for 10 days by the time he has Newton under his belt. Maybe Shinnosuke just meant "last month" instead? That's the only way I can make it work. Even then, that technically means that Ghost pretty much HAD to have gotten Newton BEFORE Edison, but Yurusen just held on to it and Takeru forgot about it.

EDIT: Actually, no. Even then, "last month" doesn't work because Takeru actually became Ghost on the 4th of October, in series. Which means Drive 48 had to have taken place from flashback to present entirely in October without a month gap of any kind in between. GOD DAMMIT, CONTINUITY.

AgileSiamang7 · 10-27-2015, 01:32 PM

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I think i get how the production of heroic eyecons goes. A subject that has a sincere connection (appreciation, it seems) to a particular spirit gets nudged by the Ganma's mindfuck power into channeling that hero's characteristics, which strengthens the bond to the spirit. This can reach a boiling point, when an eyecon can either be produced on its own through magic, or helped along by KR Ghost's power.

As for the pacing comments . . . it went by a little fast, but any longer and it would have dragged. They hit the points they needed to hit and moved on, allowing us to get to the fight and further down the overall story of the series.

I enjoyed the Urusan scoffing at Takeru as he was almost trapped by the falling city block; he forgot he can phase through matter.

Speaking of which, Takero still tiptoeing around Metal Gear style even though he's invisible and can phase through matter is always amusing; he still bows to people as he sneaks through.

Specter is gonna have some badass music.

Question:
The Robin form finisher multiple shots were fired - did he clone himself? If so, where'd that power come from? Were they just trying to illustrate his focusing his aim, or did he really copy himself, because that power can easily be broken and OP.

Why the fuck is Old Man fucking with Takeru?

Might be a reference to his Merry Men?

10-27-2015, 12:42 AM	#72
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	I have to watch the Drive crossover to figure out when he gets Newton? What? Seriously, where did it come from? __________________

10-27-2015, 12:57 AM	#73
GreenPsychoRanger Tokusatsu Hero Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6,643	The Newton eyecon was already in existence. There has been NO story for it yet. __________________

10-27-2015, 01:03 AM	#74
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	Did I miss something? When was it introduced? Did I blink and not catch a scene or something? When did that flashback to him happen? Or has it just...Been around and I'm just a forgetful asshole? GODDAMMIT. __________________

10-27-2015, 01:28 AM	#77
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	Quote: Originally Posted by GoseiWonder I want a Yurusen plushie. I love that cheeky lil' bastard. GODDAMIT YURUSEN I'LL EAT YOU. Quote: Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface You didn't miss anything, because there isn't any thing to miss. In the Drive episode the Newton Eyecon was just...there. The plotline in Drive with Newton took place over a month, we never got a good explanation of where it came from. Now Takeru's only been Ghost for 11 days and apparently that all took place off-screen. Let's not even talk about the fact that he already used Newton in Surprise Future. It's bullshit, is all it is. That's so fucking stupid. I don't even know how to express my thoughts. __________________

10-27-2015, 01:54 AM	#78
IXRollOutIX WHAT'S THE NEXT STAGE? Join Date: May 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,699	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast I have to watch the Drive crossover to figure out when he gets Newton? What? Seriously, where did it come from? I'll give you a synopsis. Like Barn said, even if you do watch the crossover, it's still a little vague about the Eyecon anyway. Basically the leader of Neo-Shade found the Newton Eye somehow; somewhere. That part's never explained. As for how Ghost ends up with it... Apparently about a week or so before the finale of Drive takes place, the Kamen Riders infiltrated a Neo-Shade base. A Ganma after the Eyecon intervenes during their attack, but Ghost fights it off and Drive ends up taking the Eye into custody. More recently, it was stolen from the research lab. The SCU tracks down the perp before the Ganma attacks again; Ghost shows up again too and this time finally destroys it. The thief escapes in the commotion but Shinnosuke retrieves the Eyecon; holding it allows him to see Ghosts apparently. The thief kidnaps Kiriko and holds her for ransom in exchange for Newton, so Takeru lets Shin keep the Eye until the case is resolved. The thief is revealed to be the leader of Neo-Shade and wants to use the Eyecon to lure Ganma into working for him so that he can revive his organization now that the Roidmudes are gone... or something like that. Shinnosuke saves Kiriko, catches the bad guy, and finally Ghost and Yurusen take Newton with them. Last edited by IXRollOutIX; 10-27-2015 at 01:59 AM..