[SanoBaron]

its not even all that dark.

I mean, if killing people was dark, Shakespeare's work makes Berserk look like Happy Days.

I just feel it's on downtime right now.

[ElConvoy]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

It's just not doing anything for me. It feels really kind of boring and like "look at this show! its dark but fun but mostly kinda dark!" feeling from it. I just don't feel invested in any of what's happening with it.

Yup thats definitely a problem I have with the show. It got tons of potential with the basic premise but it doesnt really does anything with it. The whole notion of them being child soldiers and using the same cruel methods to overthrow the adults that they had to endure themselfs is just kinda glanced over. They never have to face any realy consequences because of it. The show just kinda glances over it. Same with Mika being nothing more than a puppet for Orga. So much potential for character stuff that has been completely unused.

[algo448]

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Originally Posted by ElConvoy

Yup thats definitely a problem I have with the show. It got tons of potential with the basic premise but it doesnt really does anything with it. The whole notion of them being child soldiers and using the same cruel methods to overthrow the adults that they had to endure themselfs is just kinda glanced over. They never have to face any realy consequences because of it. The show just kinda glances over it. Same with Mika being nothing more than a puppet for Orga. So much potential for character stuff that has been completely unused.

Funnily enough your reasons for not liking it are the same ones Mari Okada detractors cite as proof she's getting better and IBO is great.

[ElConvoy]

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Originally Posted by algo448

Funnily enough your reasons for not liking it are the same ones Mari Okada detractors cite as proof she's getting better and IBO is great.

I give up with this world

[Powerman293]

I like IBO. A lot of the complaints with the show show far have been unresolved plot lines we don't know the end of yet. Mika being loyal to Orga? A flashback in a future episode. Reprecussions? Well if Gjallerhorn following Tekkadan wasn't a repercussion for Tekkadan's actions, then surely the threat of war would be.

[XW1n5t0nX]

I agree with Power. It seems a lot of the criticism is basically "They haven't fully explained everything yet." Guys we're nine episodes in. Give it time. Not everything has to be made crystal clear immediately when a show is going to run in the what, 25 to 30 range?

[ElConvoy]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

I like IBO. A lot of the complaints with the show show far have been unresolved plot lines we don't know the end of yet. Mika being loyal to Orga? A flashback in a future episode. Reprecussions? Well if Gjallerhorn following Tekkadan wasn't a repercussion for Tekkadan's actions, then surely the threat of war would be.

If they get to them one day, cool. I'm the last person who isnt able to come around on a show during a later time. Thing is though right now the things that are there are just extremely boring. I dont dislike the show for not doing stuff like I mentioned eventually I dont like it because its not doing them right now. Because doing them right now would be the thing that is actually interesting.

It took them nine episodes to get their first business partner. And those where 9 boring ass episodes that got interesting thanks to one or two action scenes with the Gundam.

There is nothing in this show right now that makes me care about the protagonists. We dont get into their heads at all safe for some really minor throwaway things. We dont learn how they really deal with whats going on and how this effects them psychologically.

And the worst thing of them all is that the show expects me to like them. Which I just cant. Up until episode 9 orga was a how asshole who was using his best friend for his own gain and still the show expects me to see him as this cool big brother figure. Same with how they go to power. They shot a guy point blank in the head. A guy who couldnt even defend himself at that. Still the show expects me to find this to be a good thing and root for Tekkadan. But I cant because they are just a bunch of psychos.

[algo448]

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Originally Posted by ElConvoy

I give up with this world

Just live free to Gundam another day.

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Originally Posted by ElConvoy

There is nothing in this show right now that makes me care about the protagonists. We dont get into their heads at all safe for some really minor throwaway things. We dont learn how they really deal with whats going on and how this effects them psychologically.

And the worst thing of them all is that the show expects me to like them. Which I just cant. Up until episode 9 orga was a how asshole who was using his best friend for his own gain and still the show expects me to see him as this cool big brother figure. Same with how they go to power. They shot a guy point blank in the head. A guy who couldnt even defend himself at that. Still the show expects me to find this to be a good thing and root for Tekkadan. But I cant because they are just a bunch of psychos.

I think one of the most interesting comments I read about IBO, is that ultimately the show is more interested in making Tekkadan a character than it is in developing any of them individually.
And while it's true that some of the cast is lacking so far, I do think their group feel alive and manages to be engaging.

[ElConvoy]

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Originally Posted by algo448

I think one of the most interesting comments I read about IBO, is that ultimately the show is more interested in making Tekkadan a character than it is in developing any of them individually.
And while it's true that some of the cast is lacking so far, I do think their group feel alive and manages to be engaging.

Had to think about it again how I think of them as a unit but I doubt I would like them much more. The times I get really invested in the show is when they use the Barbatos. The fight are great in the show and I love the music. But as soon as the fight ends I start to get bored again.

[Kn1ghtW0lf87]

I think that tends to be a problem for a few fans reguardless of the series. Like me, while I love gundam Wing's designs and fights the plot just seemed a little convoluted to me then again I havent watched it since I was like 13 so theres that XD