[kamen rider Q]

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Originally Posted by Chasing

It literally was. It might have been as brief as FangJoker's berserker phase, but it's there. Emu was the only one who couldn't control Full Dragon.

I... didn't remember FJ being a berserker form either.

[Enchilada645]

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Originally Posted by kamen rider Q

I... didn't remember FJ being a berserker form either.

It was basically that for the start of it's debut alongside it's preview in Movie Wars 2010. In it's debut they managed to get it under control but the whole crux of that arc was Philip not wanting to use Fang because he was afraid of losing control.

[kamen rider Q]

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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

It was basically that for the start of it's debut alongside it's preview in Movie Wars 2010. In it's debut they managed to get it under control but the whole crux of that arc was Philip not wanting to use Fang because he was afraid of losing control.

Right, I remembered Philip not wanting to use it for one reason or another. Should we really count the forms that were Berserk just for their premiere or should we only really count those that were persistently so for at least a few episodes?

[Chasing]

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Originally Posted by kamen rider Q

Should we really count the forms that were Berserk just for their premiere or should we only really count those that were persistently so for at least a few episodes?

...are we actually drawing the line between berserk forms that had a lot of narrative impact - versus ones that didn't? I was already getting off-topic as it is lol
It either is, or isn't a berserk form.

[Kurona]

I mean... for me, it comes down to what 'berserker' implies. There's a big difference in my eyes between "hard to control it because it's pretty powerful" like Drago Knight Hunter and "turns you into a violent murderous monster" like Hazard or Thunder Breastar. The latter is how I'd define 'berserker form'.

It's been a looong while since I've seen W, when I finally get around to rewatching it I'll see if Fangjoker really counts for me. I can see the argument though.

[Pineapple924]

Personally, considering the current state of things in Saber, I fully expect Primitive Dragon to be a berserk form.

I mean, the northern base riders already have a shaky relationship with Touma right now due to Reika claiming he's a traitor and him trying to defend the Yeti Megid from Rintaro, so why not stir the pot even further by throwing a berserk form into the mix?

[TheRaizin]

SwordXMan Saikou and Primitive Dragon Saber!

The, uh, red cross on Saber ain't too good imo. The rest look fine, though.

[kamen rider Q]

I like the red outline as it brings in Saber's most iconic colour into his upgrade. The colour combo kind of gives me Cross-Z-Evol vibes. Cool how the mouthplate is meant to look like jaws.

[Enchilada645]

That red outline is so thin, I bet it won't really be that noticeable when the suit is in live action/moving.

[Blade Fang]

I think Saikou's horn are have a pencil motif. Probably because pencil are used to draw comic and Yuri are obsessed to Superhero comic...