[MKDremare]

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Originally Posted by Sunred

I wouldn't be surprised if they go Revice with their rider count. I'm sure they have at least three prepped in the oven including Gavv, but wouldn't be surprised if they added a few more along the way. But I don't expect a lot like Geats or Saber.

Actually, Revice, including the show and movies/specials, counting only the Rider identity itself and not multiple users, and discount Revice since that can refer to either the duo or their fused form, they had like 18 Riders.

Saber, on the other hand, has 14 Riders instead (counting KR Desast if we want to consider him a Saber Rider instead of an Outsiders Rider).

[Sunred]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

And for some reason I immediately remembered the Black Sun with its narcotic jelly made of people.

Oh, right. *sighs*

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Originally Posted by MKDremare

Actually, Revice, including the show and movies/specials, counting only the Rider identity itself and not multiple users, and discount Revice since that can refer to either the duo or their fused form, they had like 18 Riders.

Saber, on the other hand, has 14 Riders instead (counting KR Desast if we want to consider him a Saber Rider instead of an Outsiders Rider).

*scratches head* Oh well. Whatever sells.
Thank you for the correction though.

DX Henshin Belt Gavv promo vid is up folks.

So Chocodan is a western gunslinger, Gurucan is Ex-Aid Maximum Gamer and Slash's kid, Fuwamallow is a Stay Puft Guyver, and Zakuzaku is Build and Kenzan's kid.
And I love how the Gochizo squeals like a mandrake.

[TycoonBoost]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

My understanding is that the chocolate secondary rider is a mistake. Although it is possible that this is the case when the main rider uses all gimmicks, including those that will become someone else's basic forms. In any case, the helmet design can definitely be rejected. In the meantime, I?m getting more and more ?Gotchard 2.0 Dessert Edition? vibes.
So far my favorite form is honey. I would even prefer it as a base one. Plus, it would be possible to release a special for the crossover, where Hopper-1 and Zakuzaku would act out a fable about a frivolous grasshopper and a hardworking bee.

I'm pretty sure ZakuZaku is potato chips according to how the form and gochizo looks, it doesn't really make sense though, as all the other forms he has so far are sweets, I'm hoping this is a Jin/Flying Falcon thing where it's used a little bit and then becomes another rider's main form.

[Dormamu]

Oh nice, a new crank buckle like Build. I'm just glad they didn't put lettering into the visor like Zi-O. And food themes, that's gonna hot sell for the kids. Nothing like gouging on chips and choco.

Wonder if there's gonna be a fish snack one.

[Sh Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

Clearly the colors on the poster tricked us.

Yeah, looks like the forms in the poster were illuminated in the colors of their respective Gochizous. Brown is already partially red, so red light just makes it look red.

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Originally Posted by GoldenXtreme

Chocolate Cowboy is easily my favorite here, yeehaw!

Shinobi naredomo wa Party Night! A brown cowboy form also reminds me of Ghost Billy The Kid Damashii.

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Originally Posted by gashatfreak

I love everything about this.

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Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax

I hate everything about this.

I can tell this is going to be a polarizing aesthetic.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

My main gripe with the costume actually concerns the matching pants. The white interior simultaneously attracts attention and creates a feeling of emptiness. It would be better to limit yourself to classic black or experiment with colors. And the cowboy?s poncho should have been made longer.

The undersuit is silver though, like Gotchard's gloves. Personally, the weirdest part about Gavv's suit is the talons on his boots. Why does a snack-themed Rider have talons?

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Originally Posted by FairyKing

Random idea, but with the idea of eating and the fact that both the Chemy cards and the belt ad show a whole bunch of each Gochizou instead of just one, it would be interesting if in the story the Gochizous weren't collectables but consumables, meaning there'd be many of each but after using one it was "eaten up" and Gavv had to somehow get another of the same kind before he could access that form again (obviously the toys would still be reusable). Perhaps they'd even be made from defeated monsters, with Gavv in an eat-or-be-eaten situation where he must devour his enemies to survive!

Reminds me of how the Ryusouls had limited lifespans and the Ryusoulgers would have to say goodbye to them before getting new ones. It's the only case I can recall where the gimmick items are revealed to be sentient halfway through the show.

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Originally Posted by Sunred

Let's hope they seriously don't go that path. We've had enough of that in Ryuki and the Hibiki summer movie.

I know right! That Hibiki summer movie literally started with an important character getting eaten, it was just too much for me, even by the usual Inoue standard. Totally don't want a repeat of that in Gavv.

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Originally Posted by Frontier

That they're advertising just the Main Rider and the base forms makes me wonder if we're not going to immediately get a Secondary or multiple Riders from the get-go again?

I hope it's like Gotchard with a sensible amount of Riders. No superfluous Over Demons or Aguileras.

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Originally Posted by TycoonBoost

I'm pretty sure ZakuZaku is potato chips according to how the form and gochizo looks, it doesn't really make sense though, as all the other forms he has so far are sweets, I'm hoping this is a Jin/Flying Falcon thing where it's used a little bit and then becomes another rider's main form.

Like I said before, Aruto reclaims Flying Falcon for good at the end of the first arc, hence it's no longer Jin's main form as he gets Burning Falcon instead.

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Originally Posted by Dormamu

I'm just glad they didn't put lettering into the visor like Zi-O.

I guess you're not a fan of the Shinkenger suits either?

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by TycoonBoost

I'm pretty sure ZakuZaku is potato chips according to how the form and gochizo looks, it doesn't really make sense though, as all the other forms he has so far are sweets, I'm hoping this is a Jin/Flying Falcon thing where it's used a little bit and then becomes another rider's main form.

I already know, I was just initially deceived by the large poster due to the similarity of the head to a bee and the already mentioned theme of sweets. I think the chips were taken because of their popularity with the main audience. Regarding themes for other riders, I see rider options on the theme of wagashi - Japanese folk sweets; McDonald's and the like; and also a fan of healthy food.

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Personally, the weirdest part about Gavv's suit is the talons on his boots. Why does a snack-themed Rider have talons?

I think that Reiwa riders are not ready to give up the animal motif and Gavv is a kangaroo or a rabbit. Personally, I'm against the rabbit, because it would immediately put the big-eared one in third place after the grasshopper and the dragon as themes for the main riders, and he doesn't deserve that. On the other hand, if Gavv is a kangaroo, then the belt is his bag, and the gimmicks are the children. Which he eats. And this concept is very creepy if you think about it.
Alternative - Gavv's base form is a ninja wearing an animal mask and claws designed for climbing walls. But for such a concept the visual is somehow boring.

[MnemonicSyntax]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

I can tell this is going to be a polarizing aesthetic.

And that's okay! I've said my piece and will be moving on. Of course I'll still read the thread and see if something catches my eye, and I'll probably tune in as usual because judging books by covers and all that.

I just know for sure my wallet will be taking a break this season due to the aesthetic.

[Tokumonkey]

Seems like the toy people are trying to reproduce what made Gaim merch sell so well. They've tried iterating different elements of those ideas periodically ever since: audacity, food, an insane number of forms, apparently-swappable armor over a common undersuit, etc. It doesn't look like this will be a multiple-Riders show in the manner of Geats, Saber, Ex-Aid, and Gaim, but maybe they've found over time that the many-Riders model doesn't perform the way they want it to.

This definitely feels more like Gaim's gimmick than anything they've done since, but maybe I'm being thrown off by the potato-chip samurai's resemblance to Gaim. There seems to be a real joy in the details of the designs: the melting-chocolate "poncho," the squeezing-the-bag sword handles, etc.

I'm curious as to what the retail action figure gimmick will be, since that always seems to have a profound effect on any Hesei-and/or-Reiwa Rider's design. That'll then get translated to So-Do, figuarts, etc. Right now, it looks most like Zero-One-esque swappable armor, but it's always possible I'm missing something.

I am very curious as to how the collectibles with adorable cartoon faces on them will go over with their target demographic.

[Frontier]

The forms are winning me over.