Kamen Rider Die rewatches Kamen Rider Fourze

Kamen Rider Die · Yesterday, 05:25 PM

KAMEN RIDER CLUB MEETING – QUIZ: KAMEN RIDER URBAN LEGENDS!! EPISODE 08

First, nothing in this world will ever be loved as much as Miu loved that Salamander Kaijin; adorable, the glee in her eyes. Second, I matched Miu’s joy with watching Tomoko (and her partner, I don’t know who, some dead-weight) finally win a quiz and get to celebrate with her toy; addictive, that little triumphant smirk.

Finally, man, Ryuusei clearly did not like doing this! I understand that it's got to be hard coming on with Quiz 8 when everyone’s already used to rhythms of these bits of ancillary media, much like it’s tough to be the new cast member months into an established ensemble, but he was not good here. The “Thinking Time” segments were just dead air, as were all of the times the cast watched clips of Skyrider. He didn’t really goof around or try to entertain, which (judging from the rest of his career into the future) speaks to him being a more dedicated actor that doesn’t want to do much of the goofy side-project stuff, or at least not being too much of a natural when asked/ordered to participate.

I say that, and I think it's a defensible theory off of this installment, but I remember him being really good at hosting the stunt team talk show from the summer’s Net Movies? Maybe this one was rough because they filmed it too early after him getting hired, or maybe he just needed a bad one under his belt in order to do better next time, but this one was kind of a rough watch. Not my favorite quiz, despite being such a good one for Miu and Tomoko!

Androzani84 · Today, 06:44 AM

I like the callback with the Chameleon Man. Not sure it tops Shun’s mock offence at Stronger’s first foe being a kangaroo.

Anyway, quiz time. As pointed out, I played into the electric theme by making Stronger’s answer key AAA. Answers should be more random again starting here.

1. Skyrider has a unique attack known as the Rider Break where he crashes the Sky Turbo into a target. But what was the IRL inspiration?
A. Kids questioning why Kamen Rider didn’t use his bike more in battle.
B. The actor didn’t have a motorcycle license and crashed the bike.
C. Ishinomori and the director thought it would be cool.

2. In the show’s Christmas episode, the villainous plot involves disabling Hiroshi’s ability to transform. How do they achieve this?
A. They threaten the lives of hostages.
B. They use an EMP to disable his belt.
C. They spray black gunk into his rotor to stop it from working.

3. In the back half of the show, Hiroshi received occasional “help” from a mascot character in a cheap costume. But what was his name?
A. Gan Gan G
B. Handle Man
C. Musou Knight.

Kamen Rider Die · Today, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Androzani84

1. Skyrider has a unique attack known as the Rider Break where he crashes the Sky Turbo into a target. But what was the IRL inspiration?
A. Kids questioning why Kamen Rider didn?t use his bike more in battle.
B. The actor didn?t have a motorcycle license and crashed the bike.
C. Ishinomori and the director thought it would be cool.

2. In the show?s Christmas episode, the villainous plot involves disabling Hiroshi?s ability to transform. How do they achieve this?
A. They threaten the lives of hostages.
B. They use an EMP to disable his belt.
C. They spray black gunk into his rotor to stop it from working.

3. In the back half of the show, Hiroshi received occasional ?help? from a mascot character in a cheap costume. But what was his name?
A. Gan Gan G
B. Handle Man
C. Musou Knight.
D. Shunpei

Thanks for the quiz!

Switchblade · Today, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Androzani84

I like the callback with the Chameleon Man. Not sure it tops Shun?s mock offence at Stronger?s first foe being a kangaroo.

Anyway, quiz time. As pointed out, I played into the electric theme by making Stronger?s answer key AAA. Answers should be more random again starting here.

1. Skyrider has a unique attack known as the Rider Break where he crashes the Sky Turbo into a target. But what was the IRL inspiration?
A. Kids questioning why Kamen Rider didn?t use his bike more in battle.
B. The actor didn?t have a motorcycle license and crashed the bike.
C. Ishinomori and the director thought it would be cool.

2. In the show?s Christmas episode, the villainous plot involves disabling Hiroshi?s ability to transform. How do they achieve this?
A. They threaten the lives of hostages.
B. They use an EMP to disable his belt.
C. They spray black gunk into his rotor to stop it from working.

3. In the back half of the show, Hiroshi received occasional ?help? from a mascot character in a cheap costume. But what was his name?
A. Gan Gan G
B. Handle Man
C. Musou Knight.

The answer to these and all other Skyrider questions is "Showa Ohsugi":

Kamen Rider Die · Today, 04:13 PM

KAMEN RIDER X SUPER SENTAI: SUPER HERO TAISEN

originally posted on December 16th, 2021, as part of “Kamen Rider Die rewatches Legend Rider projects (and more!)”

An exciting movie, with terrific action and a million characters… that I utterly despise if I think about what it’s saying for more than a minute.

Well, maybe not “utterly despise”. That’s overly harsh. I do genuinely hate what this movie ends up saying at its conclusion, though. After an entire film of Tsukasa and Marvelous putting lives in jeopardy and humiliating their friends, we get a Tsukasa speech that, hand to god, is just him going A Real Hero Knows The Ends Justify The Means. Like, look at this garbage:

I literally had to get up and walk away after that triumphantly-scored (!!!) moment. Yonemura had the goddamn anniversary-level balls to have a superhero tell a villain that any action is justified if the end result is a defeated villain. OH MAN! No! No no no no no! I hate that lesson so much that I will always resent this movie for having it as a moral.

The path to get to that moral is equally insulting. Decade and Gokai Red’s plan to gaslight both friends and enemies alike is riddled with logical problems. Like, the gimmick is that both Tsukasa and Marvelous are hiding other heroes in a pocket dimension, so the villains will think they’re dead. Tsukasa and Marvelous do this personally, with a purple-colored attack. And then they rain fire down on their friends. And then they send other villains after the heroes that only they can protect. What if General Shadow just murders, like, a Magiranger? Or if DaiZangyack’s ship obliterated Fourze? The entire plan falls apart if anyone other than Decade or Gokai Red attack the heroes… and step one of the plan is to take over armies of villains and send them against the heroes.

(Also, best part is Rider Hunter Silva going No Riders Detected as the villains make their move... while Gokai Green is about twelve feet away. Is... is that all that was necessary to hide the various heroes?! Keeping them behind rubble? In a robot's blindspot? Amazing. So dumb!)

It’s a shockingly cruel plan, even if I can sort of see Tsukasa trying it. (I don’t know Marvelous, so maybe it’s similarly believable that he’d shit all over his friends and team-up with the very villains he spent a season eliminating?) Tsukasa deciding all on his own to enact a plan with a hero he just met that might piss off all of his friends… it sort of tracks? It’s reckless, and that’s very much Tsukasa’s M.O. when it comes to plans. It’s dangerous and insulting, and then the end result is all of the Sentais and all of the Riders being in one place to stop the villains from completing a scheme they only attempted because they thought Marvelous and Tsukasa got rid of the other heroes. It’s like dousing your best friend’s home in gasoline, and then leaving a book of matches on their front doorstep, all so you can catch any would-be arsonists. Worse, it’s like trying to catch a known arsonist in the act. Like, why don’t the Riders and Sentai just, like, fight the villains from the start? Why all the subterfuge, when the only things that were gained were a) terrorized friends, and b) an army that didn’t need to be tricked into showing up? It’s a long way to go for an ending that’s just All Of The Heroes Fight At The Quarry, a thing they do more-or-less every season anyway.

The most frustrating part of the story to me is that Diend actually calls Tsukasa out on it, and he’s right, and then the movie throws it all away.

Again, can’t speak to the Sentai part, but it’s way more interesting to watch this movie after watching Decade. The real throughline of the movie (for me, at least) is how Kaitou and Tsukasa navigate their toxic relationship. There’s plenty of stuff about putting aside differences or reaching out to people or how The Greatest Treasure Is Friendship (gross), but I love how this movie really drills into how much Kaitou and Tsukasa need each other. Even in the midst of trying to make everyone in the universe think he’s a bad guy, Tsukasa sort of breaks character to try and recruit Kaitou. The real climax of the film for me isn’t the bullshit We Fooled You/We Fooled You Into Thinking You Fooled Us stuff that Marvelous and Tsukasa smirk at the villains with. It’s when Kaitou is furious that Tsukasa would consider their friendship/”friendship” collateral damage; acceptable losses.

He’s 100% right, Kaitou. It was a lazy plan by our “heroes”, and it presumes that they can be forgiven as long as no one dies. It’s nearly sociopathic in its disregard for people’s feelings. Tsukasa could’ve easily told Kaitou what was going on, just like Marvelous could’ve told the Gokaigers. All of this villainous subterfuge is just cruelty dressed up in nobility, and it’s disgusting. Kaitou’s dead right to tell Tsukasa that he was worse than a supervillain; he was an asshole.

But then Kaitou tilts into Psycho Ex territory, and the movie loses its thread.

I mean, I sort of like how Kaitou’s reaction to Tsukasa valuing all of these Riders and Sentais over what he had with Kaitou is Okay Fine Die With Them Then. Kaitou doesn’t really care about Riders or Sentais in the aggregate. He might care about Gokai Blue as a person, but he doesn’t particularly value other superheroes for any innate reasons. The idea that Tsukasa would destroy their relationship for the sake of strangers would naturally (for a toxic version of “naturally”) make Kaitou want to put those strangers in some sort of jeopardy. I don’t know that Kaitou forming a giant robot and trying to murder decades worth of superheroes works for me, though. It’s like Tsukasa’s plan: it’s too much, too fatal. It treats the safety of everyone else as obligatory, ensured. Like, this is just Kaitou throwing a tantrum at being ignored, don’t worry about it, let him get it out of his system. It’s less fun if the movie can’t treat it seriously?

But, I don’t know, the rest of the movie is pretty fun. The plot is really nothing. It’s just a ragtag group of survivors (two Gokaigers, Diend, and Hina from OOO) running around and watching cool Sentai and Rider fights. That’s it. They don’t really have a plan to stop their ex-friends from slaughtering other superheroes. It’s just Marvelous and Tsukasa’s weird scheme, front to back, which works out basically 100% correctly. (Even the Kaitou stuff just puts them back where they started.)

Still, y’know, a million superheroes! A fun cameo from the Den-O Imagin! Eiji’s in this about as much as Gentaro is! Great fights! (Best one for me was the early Gokai Red/Decade fight, where they kept using similar-themed suits, like Blade versus Spade Ace. I love when the match-ups get clever like that!) A massive battle at Kamen Rider Quarry! A finale that depends on continuity from the Fourze HBV! The story in this one is alternately illogical and offensive, but the fan-service and action are so good that I find myself working to forget the story.

Weird, weird movie. Incredibly successful as a celebration of tokusatsu; practically criminal in its stupidity and abhorrent morality.

—

THE REAL "SUPER HERO WAR" WAS THE FRIENDS WE MADE ALONG THE WAY

It’s really funny to rewatch this movie now, after having just concluded Episodes 31/32 of Kamen Rider Fourze, to see how this movie accidentally rhymes with that story. Where the Fourze episodes concluded an arc for Meteor all about how he lied and betrayed in the name of doing what he thought was right and trying to protect the people he cared about, but in doing so abandoned his principles and endangered others to the point where he was indistinguishable from the villains, this movie goes That, But Also No One Learns Anything. A Yonemura specialty, to take a classic toku plot and render it dramatically incomprehensible but aesthetically maximal.

And while we’re on the topic of things about this movie that popped more after rewatching shows, I really liked the Hina/Kaitou stuff here? I don’t know if this connected for me before, but she’s saddled with basically Blue Ankh for this movie, and that’s such a fun idea? (Yonemura has them! In small doses!) Kaitou is yet another self-involved pretty boy that prioritizes his own fulfillment over basically anything else, even as he’s emotionally connected to a Rider and therefore capable of doing the right thing under highly specific circumstances, rendering him maybe salvageable to someone like Hina – I Can Fix Him, but with a Henshin sequence.

(Speaking of Kaitou, there’s one extra thing I noticed this time that made me laugh. During the climax at Kamen Rider Quarry, Kuuga shows up, but it’s Shiny Kuuga, which means canonically it’s Onodera… who then gets “murdered” by Marvelous, to zero reaction from Kaitou. At first I’m like, that’s a plothole, Kaitou adventured with that guy for months, he’d be motivated to do something if he got executed, but then I was like, No, Kaitou completely wouldn’t care if Onodera got killed by a Sentai, the film is right to have him not react.)

Other than those couple of newly-relevant reads, this was the same ol’ Super Hero Taisen, one that’s both the definitive team-up film for its insane roster and comprehensive history, and one I’m happy to maybe never watch again because it's incredibly dumb and morally bankrupt. There’s real cleverness to the various match-ups and fights, and little moments for an absurdly high number of characters and forms – I always forget that the Den-O cast gets such a big look in, along with every OOO combo suit for some reason? But the Fourze and Go-Busters cast disappear for, like, 80% of the film, and have absolutely no emotional or narrative buy-in for the entire plot; the Horoscopes and Vagras never show up, even for a single scene. It’s a Gokaiger/Decade movie with special guest stars The Current TV Show Guys, despite the marketing’s reliance on recency bias.

And it’s an incredibly self-satisfied and callous film? For all of the Power Of Friendship talking (someone did watch Fourze!) and soundtracking, this is a movie where Gokai Blue gets inadvertently psychologically tortured by Marvelous for 75 minutes, before completely forgiving Marvelous when it turns out that he wasn’t betrayed, he was only lied to non-stop. The main theme of the film is that The Ends Justifies Means, up to and including deceiving those closest to you in the name of more expedient justice. Again, sort of the exact opposite lesson from the then-airing Fourze! YONEMURA!!!

Switchblade · Today, 04:32 PM

I will never rewatch this movie because I cannot fathom having nothing better to do with an hour of my life. I will say, as I have before, that my favorite part is how one of the villains exclaims that all Sentai members have been killed, despite the fact that Gokai Green is just hiding behind a medium-sized rock. I've always read this as Yonemura being so out of touch with Gokaiger that he just assumed Doc was their funny sidekick and not actually a member of the team. Speaking as a big Gokaiger fan, that's a fair read.

Kamen Rider Die · Today, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switchblade

I will never rewatch this movie because I cannot fathom having nothing better to do with an hour of my life. I will say, as I have before, that my favorite part is how one of the villains exclaims that all Sentai members have been killed, despite the fact that Gokai Green is just hiding behind a medium-sized rock. I've always read this as Yonemura being so out of touch with Gokaiger that he just assumed Doc was their funny sidekick and not actually a member of the team. Speaking as a big Gokaiger fan, that's a fair read.

"All Sentai have been killed!"

cut to Gokai Green

"...all useful Sentai have been killed!"

GuardianAngel87 · Today, 05:14 PM

The tie-in net movies are literally the only good thing that came out of this film. I am honestly glad that I never bothered rewatching it when I was going through my own first viewing of Kamen Rider Fourze at the time nor in my own rewatch of Go-Busters just last year. I seriously hated how it completely derailed Marvelous as a character and yes, I still do.

Kamen Rider Die · Today, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuardianAngel87

I seriously hated how it completely derailed Marvelous as a character and yes, I still do.

At least his hair didn't look as ridiculous as Tsukasa's!

Switchblade · Today, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

"All Sentai have been killed!"

cut to Gokai Green

"...all useful Sentai have been killed!"

Rude but accurate.

Yesterday, 05:25 PM	#371
Kamen Rider Die Kamen Ride Or Die Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,979	KAMEN RIDER CLUB MEETING – QUIZ: KAMEN RIDER URBAN LEGENDS!! EPISODE 08 First, nothing in this world will ever be loved as much as Miu loved that Salamander Kaijin; adorable, the glee in her eyes. Second, I matched Miu’s joy with watching Tomoko (and her partner, I don’t know who, some dead-weight) finally win a quiz and get to celebrate with her toy; addictive, that little triumphant smirk. Finally, man, Ryuusei clearly did not like doing this! I understand that it's got to be hard coming on with Quiz 8 when everyone’s already used to rhythms of these bits of ancillary media, much like it’s tough to be the new cast member months into an established ensemble, but he was not good here. The “Thinking Time” segments were just dead air, as were all of the times the cast watched clips of Skyrider. He didn’t really goof around or try to entertain, which (judging from the rest of his career into the future) speaks to him being a more dedicated actor that doesn’t want to do much of the goofy side-project stuff, or at least not being too much of a natural when asked/ordered to participate. I say that, and I think it's a defensible theory off of this installment, but I remember him being really good at hosting the stunt team talk show from the summer’s Net Movies? Maybe this one was rough because they filmed it too early after him getting hired, or maybe he just needed a bad one under his belt in order to do better next time, but this one was kind of a rough watch. Not my favorite quiz, despite being such a good one for Miu and Tomoko! __________________ Currently rewatching: Kamen Rider Fourze \| Other series available on the archive!

Today, 06:44 AM	#372
Androzani84 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 3,008	I like the callback with the Chameleon Man. Not sure it tops Shun’s mock offence at Stronger’s first foe being a kangaroo. Anyway, quiz time. As pointed out, I played into the electric theme by making Stronger’s answer key AAA. Answers should be more random again starting here. 1. Skyrider has a unique attack known as the Rider Break where he crashes the Sky Turbo into a target. But what was the IRL inspiration? A. Kids questioning why Kamen Rider didn’t use his bike more in battle. B. The actor didn’t have a motorcycle license and crashed the bike. C. Ishinomori and the director thought it would be cool. 2. In the show’s Christmas episode, the villainous plot involves disabling Hiroshi’s ability to transform. How do they achieve this? A. They threaten the lives of hostages. B. They use an EMP to disable his belt. C. They spray black gunk into his rotor to stop it from working. 3. In the back half of the show, Hiroshi received occasional “help” from a mascot character in a cheap costume. But what was his name? A. Gan Gan G B. Handle Man C. Musou Knight. __________________ The song has ended. But the story never ends

Today, 10:12 AM	#373
Kamen Rider Die Kamen Ride Or Die Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,979	Quote: Originally Posted by Androzani84 1. Skyrider has a unique attack known as the Rider Break where he crashes the Sky Turbo into a target. But what was the IRL inspiration? A. Kids questioning why Kamen Rider didn?t use his bike more in battle. B. The actor didn?t have a motorcycle license and crashed the bike. C. Ishinomori and the director thought it would be cool. 2. In the show?s Christmas episode, the villainous plot involves disabling Hiroshi?s ability to transform. How do they achieve this? A. They threaten the lives of hostages. B. They use an EMP to disable his belt. C. They spray black gunk into his rotor to stop it from working. 3. In the back half of the show, Hiroshi received occasional ?help? from a mascot character in a cheap costume. But what was his name? A. Gan Gan G B. Handle Man C. Musou Knight. D. Shunpei Thanks for the quiz! __________________ Currently rewatching: Kamen Rider Fourze \| Other series available on the archive!

Today, 04:13 PM	#375
Kamen Rider Die Kamen Ride Or Die Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,979	KAMEN RIDER X SUPER SENTAI: SUPER HERO TAISEN originally posted on December 16th, 2021, as part of “Kamen Rider Die rewatches Legend Rider projects (and more!)” An exciting movie, with terrific action and a million characters… that I utterly despise if I think about what it’s saying for more than a minute. Well, maybe not “utterly despise”. That’s overly harsh. I do genuinely hate what this movie ends up saying at its conclusion, though. After an entire film of Tsukasa and Marvelous putting lives in jeopardy and humiliating their friends, we get a Tsukasa speech that, hand to god, is just him going A Real Hero Knows The Ends Justify The Means. Like, look at this garbage: I literally had to get up and walk away after that triumphantly-scored (!!!) moment. Yonemura had the goddamn anniversary-level balls to have a superhero tell a villain that any action is justified if the end result is a defeated villain. OH MAN! No! No no no no no! I hate that lesson so much that I will always resent this movie for having it as a moral. The path to get to that moral is equally insulting. Decade and Gokai Red’s plan to gaslight both friends and enemies alike is riddled with logical problems. Like, the gimmick is that both Tsukasa and Marvelous are hiding other heroes in a pocket dimension, so the villains will think they’re dead. Tsukasa and Marvelous do this personally, with a purple-colored attack. And then they rain fire down on their friends. And then they send other villains after the heroes that only they can protect. What if General Shadow just murders, like, a Magiranger? Or if DaiZangyack’s ship obliterated Fourze? The entire plan falls apart if anyone other than Decade or Gokai Red attack the heroes… and step one of the plan is to take over armies of villains and send them against the heroes. (Also, best part is Rider Hunter Silva going No Riders Detected as the villains make their move... while Gokai Green is about twelve feet away. Is... is that all that was necessary to hide the various heroes?! Keeping them behind rubble? In a robot's blindspot? Amazing. So dumb!) It’s a shockingly cruel plan, even if I can sort of see Tsukasa trying it. (I don’t know Marvelous, so maybe it’s similarly believable that he’d shit all over his friends and team-up with the very villains he spent a season eliminating?) Tsukasa deciding all on his own to enact a plan with a hero he just met that might piss off all of his friends… it sort of tracks? It’s reckless, and that’s very much Tsukasa’s M.O. when it comes to plans. It’s dangerous and insulting, and then the end result is all of the Sentais and all of the Riders being in one place to stop the villains from completing a scheme they only attempted because they thought Marvelous and Tsukasa got rid of the other heroes. It’s like dousing your best friend’s home in gasoline, and then leaving a book of matches on their front doorstep, all so you can catch any would-be arsonists. Worse, it’s like trying to catch a known arsonist in the act. Like, why don’t the Riders and Sentai just, like, fight the villains from the start? Why all the subterfuge, when the only things that were gained were a) terrorized friends, and b) an army that didn’t need to be tricked into showing up? It’s a long way to go for an ending that’s just All Of The Heroes Fight At The Quarry, a thing they do more-or-less every season anyway. The most frustrating part of the story to me is that Diend actually calls Tsukasa out on it, and he’s right, and then the movie throws it all away. Again, can’t speak to the Sentai part, but it’s way more interesting to watch this movie after watching Decade. The real throughline of the movie (for me, at least) is how Kaitou and Tsukasa navigate their toxic relationship. There’s plenty of stuff about putting aside differences or reaching out to people or how The Greatest Treasure Is Friendship (gross), but I love how this movie really drills into how much Kaitou and Tsukasa need each other. Even in the midst of trying to make everyone in the universe think he’s a bad guy, Tsukasa sort of breaks character to try and recruit Kaitou. The real climax of the film for me isn’t the bullshit We Fooled You/We Fooled You Into Thinking You Fooled Us stuff that Marvelous and Tsukasa smirk at the villains with. It’s when Kaitou is furious that Tsukasa would consider their friendship/”friendship” collateral damage; acceptable losses. He’s 100% right, Kaitou. It was a lazy plan by our “heroes”, and it presumes that they can be forgiven as long as no one dies. It’s nearly sociopathic in its disregard for people’s feelings. Tsukasa could’ve easily told Kaitou what was going on, just like Marvelous could’ve told the Gokaigers. All of this villainous subterfuge is just cruelty dressed up in nobility, and it’s disgusting. Kaitou’s dead right to tell Tsukasa that he was worse than a supervillain; he was an asshole. But then Kaitou tilts into Psycho Ex territory, and the movie loses its thread. I mean, I sort of like how Kaitou’s reaction to Tsukasa valuing all of these Riders and Sentais over what he had with Kaitou is Okay Fine Die With Them Then. Kaitou doesn’t really care about Riders or Sentais in the aggregate. He might care about Gokai Blue as a person, but he doesn’t particularly value other superheroes for any innate reasons. The idea that Tsukasa would destroy their relationship for the sake of strangers would naturally (for a toxic version of “naturally”) make Kaitou want to put those strangers in some sort of jeopardy. I don’t know that Kaitou forming a giant robot and trying to murder decades worth of superheroes works for me, though. It’s like Tsukasa’s plan: it’s too much, too fatal. It treats the safety of everyone else as obligatory, ensured. Like, this is just Kaitou throwing a tantrum at being ignored, don’t worry about it, let him get it out of his system. It’s less fun if the movie can’t treat it seriously? But, I don’t know, the rest of the movie is pretty fun. The plot is really nothing. It’s just a ragtag group of survivors (two Gokaigers, Diend, and Hina from OOO) running around and watching cool Sentai and Rider fights. That’s it. They don’t really have a plan to stop their ex-friends from slaughtering other superheroes. It’s just Marvelous and Tsukasa’s weird scheme, front to back, which works out basically 100% correctly. (Even the Kaitou stuff just puts them back where they started.) Still, y’know, a million superheroes! A fun cameo from the Den-O Imagin! Eiji’s in this about as much as Gentaro is! Great fights! (Best one for me was the early Gokai Red/Decade fight, where they kept using similar-themed suits, like Blade versus Spade Ace. I love when the match-ups get clever like that!) A massive battle at Kamen Rider Quarry! A finale that depends on continuity from the Fourze HBV! The story in this one is alternately illogical and offensive, but the fan-service and action are so good that I find myself working to forget the story. Weird, weird movie. Incredibly successful as a celebration of tokusatsu; practically criminal in its stupidity and abhorrent morality. — THE REAL "SUPER HERO WAR" WAS THE FRIENDS WE MADE ALONG THE WAY It’s really funny to rewatch this movie now, after having just concluded Episodes 31/32 of Kamen Rider Fourze, to see how this movie accidentally rhymes with that story. Where the Fourze episodes concluded an arc for Meteor all about how he lied and betrayed in the name of doing what he thought was right and trying to protect the people he cared about, but in doing so abandoned his principles and endangered others to the point where he was indistinguishable from the villains, this movie goes That, But Also No One Learns Anything. A Yonemura specialty, to take a classic toku plot and render it dramatically incomprehensible but aesthetically maximal. And while we’re on the topic of things about this movie that popped more after rewatching shows, I really liked the Hina/Kaitou stuff here? I don’t know if this connected for me before, but she’s saddled with basically Blue Ankh for this movie, and that’s such a fun idea? (Yonemura has them! In small doses!) Kaitou is yet another self-involved pretty boy that prioritizes his own fulfillment over basically anything else, even as he’s emotionally connected to a Rider and therefore capable of doing the right thing under highly specific circumstances, rendering him maybe salvageable to someone like Hina – I Can Fix Him, but with a Henshin sequence. (Speaking of Kaitou, there’s one extra thing I noticed this time that made me laugh. During the climax at Kamen Rider Quarry, Kuuga shows up, but it’s Shiny Kuuga, which means canonically it’s Onodera… who then gets “murdered” by Marvelous, to zero reaction from Kaitou. At first I’m like, that’s a plothole, Kaitou adventured with that guy for months, he’d be motivated to do something if he got executed, but then I was like, No, Kaitou completely wouldn’t care if Onodera got killed by a Sentai, the film is right to have him not react.) Other than those couple of newly-relevant reads, this was the same ol’ Super Hero Taisen, one that’s both the definitive team-up film for its insane roster and comprehensive history, and one I’m happy to maybe never watch again because it's incredibly dumb and morally bankrupt. There’s real cleverness to the various match-ups and fights, and little moments for an absurdly high number of characters and forms – I always forget that the Den-O cast gets such a big look in, along with every OOO combo suit for some reason? But the Fourze and Go-Busters cast disappear for, like, 80% of the film, and have absolutely no emotional or narrative buy-in for the entire plot; the Horoscopes and Vagras never show up, even for a single scene. It’s a Gokaiger/Decade movie with special guest stars The Current TV Show Guys, despite the marketing’s reliance on recency bias. And it’s an incredibly self-satisfied and callous film? For all of the Power Of Friendship talking (someone did watch Fourze!) and soundtracking, this is a movie where Gokai Blue gets inadvertently psychologically tortured by Marvelous for 75 minutes, before completely forgiving Marvelous when it turns out that he wasn’t betrayed, he was only lied to non-stop. The main theme of the film is that The Ends Justifies Means, up to and including deceiving those closest to you in the name of more expedient justice. Again, sort of the exact opposite lesson from the then-airing Fourze! YONEMURA!!! __________________ Currently rewatching: Kamen Rider Fourze \| Other series available on the archive!

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Kamen Rider Die Kamen Ride Or Die Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,979	Quote: Originally Posted by Switchblade I will never rewatch this movie because I cannot fathom having nothing better to do with an hour of my life. I will say, as I have before, that my favorite part is how one of the villains exclaims that all Sentai members have been killed, despite the fact that Gokai Green is just hiding behind a medium-sized rock. I've always read this as Yonemura being so out of touch with Gokaiger that he just assumed Doc was their funny sidekick and not actually a member of the team. Speaking as a big Gokaiger fan, that's a fair read. "All Sentai have been killed!" cut to Gokai Green "...all useful Sentai have been killed!" __________________ Currently rewatching: Kamen Rider Fourze \| Other series available on the archive!