[AkibaSilver]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Episodes dedicated to Blade and Agito are literally a declaration of love for these seasons. And the episodes of Kiva, with minimal use of actors from the original show and no use of its plot at all, managed to produce an amazing parody. Maybe the riders of the second phase of Heisei really were less fortunate, but Zi-O definitely loves the first ten.

The Agito episode uses Agito's own experience of being an amnesiac to connect to Tsyukyomi, and the Blade episode is about two former-rivals turned lifelong friends, just like Zi-O and Geiz - plus, it has the final moments of White Woz. The show loves the prior Riders, yes, but it still develops and progresses the main protagonist even so. Even the Kiva episode is as much about Sougo as a person, with his first love, rather than just being "Wow isn't Kiva so cool?"

(Also, like, half the "Neo"- Heisei episodes got slated for barely being about the original protagonist. People are probably still bitter Eiji was overshadowed in his by Kuroto Dan at his most obnoxious!)

[henshinzero]

Reiwa’s anniversary series better be fusion themed.

As 01 & Kuuga are a match, what of Saber’s, Revice’s & Geats’?

[AkibaSilver]

I don't quite get what you're asking? Wouldn't it just be Agito, Ryuki, and Faiz, since they're the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th series of their eras?

[henshinzero]

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Originally Posted by AkibaSilver

I don't quite get what you're asking? Wouldn't it just be Agito, Ryuki, and Faiz, since they're the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th series of their eras?

What I'm asking if a fusion concept would be used for a Reiwa anniversary series.

That goes for depending on the compatibility of the riders as well.

Ex. Kuuga & Zero-One are a match due to them being the first ones in their era.

The other Reiwa main riders need to be unique among the other Heisei riders. Like how they relate.

ex.
Saber & Wizard are a possible match, they go like how they're dragon-themed and their final forms Xross Saber & Infinity style see shining & diamond-like.

Revice & Den-O are a possible match, due to partnership. Revice due to a human & inner demon teaming up, while Den-O are like a team due to Singularity Point having his Imagin possess him for new powers & forms. Of course there is unity as well.

[Sunred]

We already had Decade and Zi-O so no thanks.
Besides, we already had another legacy-themed collectible show with Revice recently so I would much rather see them give us something unheard of.

[Mesnick]

What worries me the most is that if actors from past shows return for the anniversary season, Zero-One will be represent by Dan Kuroto's humagear in it.

[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Zero-One's image has greatly suffered from "tHe jOB cOMpeTitiON aRC"- internet brainrot. Some people are way too obsessed with dunking on the show for like 9 episodes which were fun and serviceable but ultimately predictable and average at best.

Zero-One also got infamous for making characters unreasonably stupid to further the plot, its handling of the first tertiary female Rider (extends to Takahashi's reputation too in handling females... even if there's Izu), and also making scumbags on Gai level undergo a redemption arc and/or also getting away scot free at the end even compared to the main cast's fate (though at least for me, Aruto, Fuwa, and Yua's reactions to it are good ones).

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

It did work for me and I liked it, but I have no ground to argue against this

Well, the thing is, like the job competition arc, the final ar(k)c does get kickstarted with some idiocy between the characters (even if I'd think the execution is quite good and I think Horobi's redemption feels more natural than Gai's), like Izu approaching Horobi, while done due to Azu's manipulation, it's incredibly unsafe to do so without being backed up, and also how Aruto, after watching Izu got killed in front of him, wasn't suspicious of Azu approaching him, despite that the only disguise she did was adding blue streaks on her hair (instead of red), but her hair is still long, not short like Izu's, and he accepted Ark-One Driver despite that he already got the stronger Zero-Two to easily beat Horobi (at that time).

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Zero-One also got infamous for making characters unreasonably stupid to further the plot, its handling of the first tertiary female Rider (extends to Takahashi's reputation too in handling females... even if there's Izu)

Wasn't Mayu from Wizard the first tertiary female rider? Or Nadeshiko from Fourze? Or, if you dig really deep, Saya from 555?

[GoldenXtreme]

I've been thinking lately... Kamen Rider isn't in a terrible place as a series, but I really do think it could use a shot in the arm. What would you all consider the last show the series had that felt really fresh to you and what kind of new territory would you like the see the series try and tackle in the future?


I think the last series thst felt super fresh to me was Gaim. I love quite a few series after that, like Ex-Aid and Build, but Gaim really defined Rider vs Rider conflict for the modern era and most subsequent shows would take a page out of its book.


As for what I'd like the series to do to freshen itself up... I think it would be cool to do a split viewpoint of two opposing Rider teams. Kinda like Lupin vs Pat? (I haven't seen Lupin vs Pat.) I think there's a lot of untapped potential there. In Faiz I always loved the split viewpoint between the Takumi and Kiba's groups.

[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by GoldenXtreme

I've been thinking lately... Kamen Rider isn't in a terrible place as a series, but I really do think it could use a shot in the arm. What would you all consider the last show the series had that felt really fresh to you and what kind of new territory would you like the see the series try and tackle in the future?

Yes, I would say that after Zero-One, all the shows look pretty new. Geats is similar to other Takahashi shows, but not to other rider shows. Saber is basically closer to the Chinese Armor Hero. Even Reviсe presented a rather atypical situation with a family of riders. So the experiments continue, although not entirely radical.