SH Figuarts & D-Arts (Non-Toku) Combined Discussion

Dr Kain · 12-14-2014, 10:59 AM

Yeah, Bluefin already said they will not be able to get the Star Wars Figuarts. This stuff is so damn stupid. I don't get why they need to own a license to import a figure to the US anyway. If Hasbro doesn't like it, tough ****. They should then talk to Bandai about buying the license and selling them in the US.

Talisman · 12-14-2014, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Yeah, Bluefin already said they will not be able to get the Star Wars Figuarts. This stuff is so damn stupid. I don't get why they need to own a license to import a figure to the US anyway. If Hasbro doesn't like it, tough ****. They should then talk to Bandai about buying the license and selling them in the US.

I'm sure that, seeing as they control the licensing, if Disney wanted they could just wave their magic wand and get Bandai and Bluefin some means to distribute it. But ultimately they probably don't want competition over one of their biggest franchises in a particular market out of fear of potential profit loss. Figuarts would be a direct competitor to Hasbro's Black line, after all.

Electric Turahk · 12-14-2014, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Yeah, Bluefin already said they will not be able to get the Star Wars Figuarts. This stuff is so damn stupid. I don't get why they need to own a license to import a figure to the US anyway. If Hasbro doesn't like it, tough ****. They should then talk to Bandai about buying the license and selling them in the US.

It's not importing it. It's selling it. And "tough shit" isn't exactly a valid legal defense.

Den-O · 12-14-2014, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Yeah, Bluefin already said they will not be able to get the Star Wars Figuarts. This stuff is so damn stupid. I don't get why they need to own a license to import a figure to the US anyway. If Hasbro doesn't like it, tough ****. They should then talk to Bandai about buying the license and selling them in the US.

This is one of the most ignorant points of view you could have possibly (and poorly) articulated. Distribution and sales of toys is entirely dependent on who does or does not hold a particular license. If one company has the right to sell items from a particular license within a certain area, no other companies may do so unless there's an agreement between licensee and licensors of said intellectual property to do so.

Or if there's a claim for that property, whether or not anyone even distributes those figures or not (like Gaim & metal Heroes for example not being released here) then the figures can't be licensed for sale by any other entity. It's pretty simple and just saying "tough shit" is a incredibly childish and uninformed way to look at the legality of all of this.

SideswipePrime · 12-14-2014, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Yeah, Bluefin already said they will not be able to get the Star Wars Figuarts. This stuff is so damn stupid. I don't get why they need to own a license to import a figure to the US anyway. If Hasbro doesn't like it, tough ****. They should then talk to Bandai about buying the license and selling them in the US.

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Originally Posted by Talisman

I'm sure that, seeing as they control the licensing, if Disney wanted they could just wave their magic wand and get Bandai and Bluefin some means to distribute it. But ultimately they probably don't want competition over one of their biggest franchises in a particular market out of fear of potential profit loss. Figuarts would be a direct competitor to Hasbro's Black line, after all.

I see, I was afraid that was the case...looks like I'll need to go through AmiAmi or such if I want him.

Electric Turahk · 12-15-2014, 11:02 PM

Welp, looks like Vader's not going up tonight. Still hoping for some time this week.

Dr Kain · 12-16-2014, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Electric Turahk

Welp, looks like Vader's not going up tonight. Still hoping for some time this week.

That's good for me. I work tomorrow, so I can not stay up much longer than another hour. After Thursday though, I will be on Xmas break until Jan 9th, so he can go up any time between then.

Lbsammills51 · 12-17-2014, 03:42 PM

In other news, BBTS finally got Broly in so my PoL finally gets to ship out...eventually!

Guyver Spawn · 12-21-2014, 04:04 PM

Does anyone know where I can find D-Arts Wargreymon (Original Designer's Edition) for a affordable price? I try Mandarake but I couldn't find him there.

Dr Kain · 12-21-2014, 06:58 PM

I thought he was being reissued.

12-14-2014, 11:06 AM	#2102
Talisman Devil from the Depths Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Airspace B7R Posts: 8,024	Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Kain Yeah, Bluefin already said they will not be able to get the Star Wars Figuarts. This stuff is so damn stupid. I don't get why they need to own a license to import a figure to the US anyway. If Hasbro doesn't like it, tough ****. They should then talk to Bandai about buying the license and selling them in the US. I'm sure that, seeing as they control the licensing, if Disney wanted they could just wave their magic wand and get Bandai and Bluefin some means to distribute it. But ultimately they probably don't want competition over one of their biggest franchises in a particular market out of fear of potential profit loss. Figuarts would be a direct competitor to Hasbro's Black line, after all. __________________ Fly with me on Bluesky! Talisman on MyFigureCollection

12-14-2014, 01:01 PM	#2103
Electric Turahk Tokusatsu Hero Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,525	Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Kain Yeah, Bluefin already said they will not be able to get the Star Wars Figuarts. This stuff is so damn stupid. I don't get why they need to own a license to import a figure to the US anyway. If Hasbro doesn't like it, tough ****. They should then talk to Bandai about buying the license and selling them in the US. It's not importing it. It's selling it. And "tough shit" isn't exactly a valid legal defense. __________________

12-14-2014, 07:21 PM	#2104
Den-O Admin AKA Zordon Content Director @DenO_TokuNation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 16,328	Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Kain Yeah, Bluefin already said they will not be able to get the Star Wars Figuarts. This stuff is so damn stupid. I don't get why they need to own a license to import a figure to the US anyway. If Hasbro doesn't like it, tough ****. They should then talk to Bandai about buying the license and selling them in the US. This is one of the most ignorant points of view you could have possibly (and poorly) articulated. Distribution and sales of toys is entirely dependent on who does or does not hold a particular license. If one company has the right to sell items from a particular license within a certain area, no other companies may do so unless there's an agreement between licensee and licensors of said intellectual property to do so. Or if there's a claim for that property, whether or not anyone even distributes those figures or not (like Gaim & metal Heroes for example not being released here) then the figures can't be licensed for sale by any other entity. It's pretty simple and just saying "tough shit" is a incredibly childish and uninformed way to look at the legality of all of this. __________________

12-14-2014, 07:27 PM	#2105
SideswipePrime Go beyond...PLUS ULTRA!!! Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Higher than you'd think, but lower than you'd hope. Posts: 7,044	Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Kain Yeah, Bluefin already said they will not be able to get the Star Wars Figuarts. This stuff is so damn stupid. I don't get why they need to own a license to import a figure to the US anyway. If Hasbro doesn't like it, tough **. They should then talk to Bandai about buying the license and selling them in the US. Quote: Originally Posted by Talisman** I'm sure that, seeing as they control the licensing, if Disney wanted they could just wave their magic wand and get Bandai and Bluefin some means to distribute it. But ultimately they probably don't want competition over one of their biggest franchises in a particular market out of fear of potential profit loss. Figuarts would be a direct competitor to Hasbro's Black line, after all. I see, I was afraid that was the case...looks like I'll need to go through AmiAmi or such if I want him. __________________

12-15-2014, 11:02 PM	#2106
Electric Turahk Tokusatsu Hero Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,525	Welp, looks like Vader's not going up tonight. Still hoping for some time this week. __________________