[Matrixbeast]

It's about a group of beings who were imprisoned for a millennium because their violent king decided if he was going down, they'd all go down with him.

It's a very downer scenario and, while it does have a happy ending, it's not very optimistic (All of the Crystal Ponies experience massive depression) and the urgency is far greater (Notice how Celestia doesn't even treat Nightmare's return as a threat (Despite knowing it'd happen for a thousand years) and how the show intentionally downplayed Chrysalis's threat by giving her two songs).

[guncannon109]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

It's about a group of beings who were imprisoned for a millennium because their violent king decided if he was going down, they'd all go down with him.

It's a very downer scenario and, while it does have a happy ending, it's not very optimistic (All of the Crystal Ponies experience massive depression) and the urgency is far greater (Notice how Celestia doesn't even treat Nightmare's return as a threat (Despite knowing it'd happen for a thousand years) and how the show intentionally downplayed Chrysalis's threat by giving her two songs).

Yeah, that's sounds about right.

Wait, how did have Chrysalis sing downplay her as a threat exactly?

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by guncannon109

Yeah, that's sounds about right.

Wait, how did have Chrysalis sing downplay her as a threat exactly?

Villain songs always do that.
Yes, they're cool as hell, no denying that, but it underplays their threat by having them break down their plan and how evil they are for 2 minutes while singing.

[guncannon109]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Villain songs always do that.
Yes, they're cool as hell, no denying that, but it underplays their threat by having them break down their plan and how evil they are for 2 minutes while singing.

I guess that's true... Though to be honest Chrysalis wasn't that great a villain anyway. Whoops did I just say that out loud?

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by guncannon109

I guess that's true... Though to be honest Chrysalis wasn't that great a villain anyway. Whoops did I just say that out loud?

Actually, she was.
She had a well thought out plan with decent timing, played Twilight's emotions, tricked and broke apart the only ones who could stop her, and was only overcome by an unexpected variable.

[guncannon109]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Actually, she was.
She had a well thought out plan with decent timing, played Twilight's emotions, tricked and broke apart the only ones who could stop her, and was only overcome by an unexpected variable.

Yes, but what exactly was Chrysalis there to do anyway? I'm assuming that she planned to pretend to be Cadence permanently, but the way she was treating everyone doesn't exactly scream "Covert Ops," not to mention the fact that she kind of triggered her own undoing by putting Twilight in the exact same prison as Cadence. If I were her, I would've left Cadence in alone in the caves, and put Twi in some other location.

[Matrixbeast]

>Traps Twilight as Cadance
>Places Twilight in the same prison as Cadance
>Taunts Twilight as Cadance
>Places the real Cadance behind the only set of stones that won't reflect Twilight's magic

It's fairly clear what Chrysalis's goal was. She didn't anticipate Twilight and Cadance having a background together, which was her own undoing.
Even then, she was still prepared even should her first plan have failed, as evidenced by having her invasion completely at the ready during the wedding.

[SideswipePrime]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

It's about a group of beings who were imprisoned for a millennium because their violent king decided if he was going down, they'd all go down with him.

It's a very downer scenario and, while it does have a happy ending, it's not very optimistic (All of the Crystal Ponies experience massive depression) and the urgency is far greater (Notice how Celestia doesn't even treat Nightmare's return as a threat (Despite knowing it'd happen for a thousand years) and how the show intentionally downplayed Chrysalis's threat by giving her two songs).

I never thought of it that way.

*sees the rest of the conversation*

Dang Matrix, were you on the debate team in high school or something?

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by SideswipePrime

I never thought of it that way.

*sees the rest of the conversation*

Dang Matrix, were you on the debate team in high school or something?

I was, but I left when I realized I hated everyone on my team.

[SideswipePrime]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I was, but I left when I realized I hated everyone on my team.