[conundrum]

I really don't have any complaints about Megaforce at the moment. Like others, I think Troy is only uninteresting at the moment because we really know nothing about him. His character has had nothing in the way of development and hopefully that's remedied soon. Of course a series not pushing all the focus on the red ranger is kind of refreshing, especially after Jayden & the Samurai.

[Banba Soukichi]

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Originally Posted by conundrum

I really don't have any complaints about Megaforce at the moment. Like others, I think Troy is only uninteresting at the moment because we really no nothing about him. His character has had nothing in the way of development and hopefully that's remedied soon. Of course a series not pushing all the focus on the red ranger is kind of refreshing, especially after Jayden & the Samurai.

ditto.

[MnemonicSyntax]

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Originally Posted by Taro3

I was expecting big things from MegaForce considering that the series is celebrating 20 years of Power Rangers. But so far I'm a little disappointed.

The acting is kind of so-so, but not to fault the actors, I think it has a lot to do with the characters they were given to play. They're so cliché it borders on annoying. We have the mysterious new guy, not too original. I know the blue ranger has often been more of a geeky type character, but Noah couldn't have been closer to the definition of a nerd if they had given him a pocket protector. He's perhaps the most disappointing because it seems like they try to make him seem as uncool as possible, I assume in an attempt to reinforce the nerdiness. Not all nerds lack self esteem, or get annoyingly passionate in a science class, etc. Not in the real world, and not even in other Power Rangers shows.

I don't think that at all. Noah isn't "not cool" he's just not sure of himself. When you're charged with saving the world, I'm sure it's going to cross your mind eventually.

And no, not all nerds lack self esteem, or love science, etc. etc. etc. but there are those that do. Remember, Power Rangers tends to have a message behind it. I recall in a David Yost TV Guide interview that he said one time, a short, chunky kid came over and told him that because of Billy, he felt like he could do anything and gave him a hug and thanked him. Billy, being the "nerd", showed kids that the can get through anything, even a fear of fish apparently!

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At first I thought Jake was going to be the typical jock. Somewhat thankfully, he turned out to be more of a cross between a typical jock and a typical ladies man, making him slightly more interesting (especially since the latter is a bit more rare in Power Rangers). He really shined in episode 3, but I can't help but feel like his constant flirting with Gia will start to get annoying in a few episodes. Speaking of Gia, she strikes me as a complete Mary Sue. Emma's "I love the environment!" bit is annoying too.

Not sure what a Mary Sue is, so you'll have to explain that one. Also, in the three episodes I've seen, I don't recall Emma being like that at all. In fact, I haven't really seen much of Emma at all, especially for form that conclusion.

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I hate to seem so critical, but it's like they didn't even try to make the characters interesting at all. And again, not that the rest of the show is bad, it just seems to fall short of expectations for what I always thought would be an extra special 20th anniversary series. Little things like the text on the cards just seemed to slip through the cracks. I'd rather have seen them put a little more effort into things like that, rather than just tossing in a bunch of nods to previous shows.

So what are your expectations then? If it's the 20th anniversary, nods to previous shows are expected. But I don't see how this makes any difference to the card issue, when most likely the editing/completely new card issue had it's costs moved to other things that we don't know about, like possible returning actors. Regardless, the card thing is still nitpicky though. We have names for these characters, like "Tensou" and "Gosei." I think the bigger gripe should be the names on the Power Cards themselves. We have for example Sky, Sea and Land Brothers, but other Power Cards show the same thing, but with a variant name, like Aero, Oceanic, and Terran Brothers instead. So it's not much of a stretch to see Skyic, Seaic and Landic on the show itself.

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The first episode seemed to me like a fast paced parade of toys they're selling, and the second was just a little too typical of Power Rangers, following a 20 year old script. The third episode I found a lot more original and redeeming, so I hope that things are taking a turn for the better.

Here's the thing for me here though: You don't want a typical Power Ranger script, but yet you want the nerd to be the typical nerd from other seasons?

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Last but not least, what happened to Gokaiger? I thought MegaForce was supposed to be based on both Goseiger and Gokaiger. But other than some ranger keys on a shelf which have been nothing more than a decoration so far, I can't find a trace of it.

Again I don't mean to be harsh, but it just seems like they could have done a lot better with MegaForce so far than they have done.

This has already been answered for you, but Megaforce is combining two seasons, Goseiger and Gokaiger, to coincide with the 20th anniversary.

Lastly, those aren't Ranger Keys on the walls. They're three to four sizes too large for keys and have no waist joint. It's not to say that they won't do... something, but as it stands, they're not Ranger Keys in that form.

[Blade Raider]

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Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax

Not sure what a Mary Sue is, so you'll have to explain that one.

Don't worry, he doesn't know what a Mary Sue is either

PS To be fair, TV Tropes even has a hard time defining this one.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MarySue

[Matrixbeast]

That's because Mary Sue is a concept, not a description. What makes a character a Mary Sue in Lord of the Rings might be the norm for a character in Harry Potter, for example.
A Mary Sue is a little on the difficult side to properly describe, since it's not a catch all, but varies from series to series on what makes the character so "Perfect."

[Taro3]

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Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax

I don't think that at all. Noah isn't "not cool" he's just not sure of himself. When you're charged with saving the world, I'm sure it's going to cross your mind eventually.

And no, not all nerds lack self esteem, or love science, etc. etc. etc. but there are those that do. Remember, Power Rangers tends to have a message behind it. I recall in a David Yost TV Guide interview that he said one time, a short, chunky kid came over and told him that because of Billy, he felt like he could do anything and gave him a hug and thanked him. Billy, being the "nerd", showed kids that the can get through anything, even a fear of fish apparently!

Not sure what a Mary Sue is, so you'll have to explain that one. Also, in the three episodes I've seen, I don't recall Emma being like that at all. In fact, I haven't really seen much of Emma at all, especially for form that conclusion.

So what are your expectations then? If it's the 20th anniversary, nods to previous shows are expected. But I don't see how this makes any difference to the card issue, when most likely the editing/completely new card issue had it's costs moved to other things that we don't know about, like possible returning actors. Regardless, the card thing is still nitpicky though. We have names for these characters, like "Tensou" and "Gosei." I think the bigger gripe should be the names on the Power Cards themselves. We have for example Sky, Sea and Land Brothers, but other Power Cards show the same thing, but with a variant name, like Aero, Oceanic, and Terran Brothers instead. So it's not much of a stretch to see Skyic, Seaic and Landic on the show itself.

Here's the thing for me here though: You don't want a typical Power Ranger script, but yet you want the nerd to be the typical nerd from other seasons?

This has already been answered for you, but Megaforce is combining two seasons, Goseiger and Gokaiger, to coincide with the 20th anniversary.

Lastly, those aren't Ranger Keys on the walls. They're three to four sizes too large for keys and have no waist joint. It's not to say that they won't do... something, but as it stands, they're not Ranger Keys in that form.

My issue is not that they included a nerdy character, it's just that all of the characters seem so stereotypical. The glasses the attitude, it's like they just went though a super generic check list for things associated with nerds and called it a day. In other installments, that was never the case, for good reason I think. Sure, there have been nerds, but they at least had some self confidence and unique traits. But the MegaForce characters all seem so generic.

A Mary Sue basically means a character that's too perfect. Gia is smart, beautiful, popular, etc. Again she just seemed like another generic, shallow character.

Did you watch the first episode? In one of the first scenes, in response to Mr. Burley's question, Emma says that only insects will survive all the awful things humans are doing to wreck the environment. I'd have to go back and watch it again to be sure, but I think about midway through the episode she even says the line "I love the environment" or something very similar.

For a show like Power Rangers, changing text on a card should not be rocket science. Yeah, it would take some time to do the editing, but heck to me that seems like part of the job of making a Power Rangers series. Why not make it right? Again, this is the 20th anniversary of Power Rangers we're talking about. If there was one series to pay a little more attention to, put a little more effort into, and not to cut corners on, I'd hope this would be it. I guess 'cause they think the show is just for children who won't care anyway. Maybe my expectations were too high, but I was expecting this season to be epic, not hovering around average.

I never said I wanted anything typical from other seasons. I was just suggesting other seasons as examples of more interesting characters and stories. That doesn't mean I just want clones of former rangers. I just want to not feel like I could see pictures of the current cast in the dictionary under "nerd" "jock" etc.

There's just nothing special about MegaForce right now, that's my big gripe.

But at least I've got hope. Going Viral at least showed that Jake and Noah aren't completely 1-dimensional, so hopefully as we get to know more about the others, they'll be less bland.

[MnemonicSyntax]

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My issue is not that they included a nerdy character, it's just that all of the characters seem so stereotypical. The glasses the attitude, it's like they just went though a super generic check list for things associated with nerds and called it a day. In other installments, that was never the case, for good reason I think. Sure, there have been nerds, but they at least had some self confidence and unique traits. But the MegaForce characters all seem so generic.

A Mary Sue basically means a character that's too perfect. Gia is smart, beautiful, popular, etc. Again she just seemed like another generic, shallow character.

Did you watch the first episode? In one of the first scenes, in response to Mr. Burley's question, Emma says that only insects will survive all the awful things humans are doing to wreck the environment. I'd have to go back and watch it again to be sure, but I think about midway through the episode she even says the line "I love the environment" or something very similar.

For a show like Power Rangers, changing text on a card should not be rocket science. Yeah, it would take some time to do the editing, but heck to me that seems like part of the job of making a Power Rangers series. Why not make it right? Again, this is the 20th anniversary of Power Rangers we're talking about. If there was one series to pay a little more attention to, put a little more effort into, and not to cut corners on, I'd hope this would be it. I guess 'cause they think the show is just for children who won't care anyway. Maybe my expectations were too high, but I was expecting this season to be epic, not hovering around average.

I never said I wanted anything typical from other seasons. I was just suggesting other seasons as examples of more interesting characters and stories. That doesn't mean I just want clones of former rangers. I just want to not feel like I could see pictures of the current cast in the dictionary under "nerd" "jock" etc.

There's just nothing special about MegaForce right now, that's my big gripe.

But at least I've got hope. Going Viral at least showed that Jake and Noah aren't completely 1-dimensional, so hopefully as we get to know more about the others, they'll be less bland.

The Power Morphers from Season 1 say Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger on them when the remove their coins to form the crystals. Unedited footage is really nothing new and has been a staple of Power Rangers for 20 years.

Also, the whole Emma thing. Yeah, I watched the first episode. But it's only been one time. Your initial post made it seem like this was something she did incessantly, which it's not that way really.

[Taro3]

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The Power Morphers from Season 1 say Kyoryu Sentai Zyuranger on them when the remove their coins to form the crystals. Unedited footage is really nothing new and has been a staple of Power Rangers for 20 years.

Also, the whole Emma thing. Yeah, I watched the first episode. But it's only been one time. Your initial post made it seem like this was something she did incessantly, which it's not that way really.

Season 1, a whole 20 years ago. Both technology and the show have come a loooooooooooooooooong way since then.

And when there's only three episodes total so far, something that's consistent in one episode is pretty significant. It was the first episode, which introduces us to the characters in the first place, and that's pretty much the one and only thing about Emma that I've learned so far. And other than that, as you yourself pointed out, we "haven't really seen much of Emma at all."

[MnemonicSyntax]

Yes, 20 years. And a budget that only goes so far, especially if they plan to do much more next season, like bring back Veteran Rangers for cameos.

And how is something that happens in one episode consistent? Again, you're acting like Emma needs to continously remind us that she's a treehugger. I don't get that from her, yet. If we get some focus eps and shes going on and on about it, then yeah, it would be something that she's forcefeeding to us.

[GoseiWonder]

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Now, I fear I must disagree with you here. You see, I would much rather have Billy be the American AkaRed. Yes, he was a Blue Ranger, but I don't care- of the original five, he stuck with the show the longest, despite all of the backstage troubles, and I think Billy deserves to be a Ranger once again.

I see, well, I have my own theory on how Billy will be integrated into Super Megaforce.

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I'm hoping for US!Gokai Silver to be a new character who is half Human/half Aquitian and shows reverence to Noah because US!Gokai Silver's dad was a Blue Ranger.
Try and guess why.

In other words: Billy will be the dad of the half Human/half Aquitian US!Gokai Silver I mentioned above. And he'll be the guy who built the US!GoZyuJin and Gokai Cellular.
Isn't wild speculation fun?