Kamen Rider Gaim episode 16: "A New Arms! Jinba Lemon Is Here!" Discussion

KamenRiderOOO · 02-02-2014, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

observation:

Kouta straightup refused to kill Hase, and would definitely have refused to kill Yuuya if he knew.

But he had no problems blasting all of those Kuroukage Dandelion Riders. I mean, those bikes straight up EXPLODED, those guys were all human soldiers that are dead!

Did he just not realize it, or is he gonna go all Punisher on anyone not his friend?

"I WON'T KILL A HUMAN BEING!"

2 episodes later:
"Hehe, Dandeliner go boom"

Den-O · 02-02-2014, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by XW1n5t0nX

Maybe his logic is that unless he knows them and sees them turn into a monster they're fair game?

Well, unlike Micchy who's seen all the evidence, Kouta doesn't know that they could all potentially be humans. Obviously that realization hasn't hit him yet or he'd have put 2 & 2 together about what he did to Yuya. He only knows what happened to Hasse, and for all he knows that was a freak event.

KamenRiderOOO · 02-02-2014, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Well, unlike Micchy who's seen all the evidence, Kouta doesn't know that they could all potentially be humans. Obviously that realization hasn't hit him yet or he'd have put 2 & 2 together about what he did to Yuya. He only knows what happened to Hasse, and for all he knows that was a freak event.

Yeah, he didn't see them transform. For all he knows, the Kurokage troopers can just be robots made by Ryoma in the form of Kurokage, since he obtained Hase's data. Kouta also tends to act in the moment instead of analyze, he just goes along. Like when the Lion Inves knocked off his plate, he didn't immediately think the Genesis core could attach there, he found it out.

XW1n5t0nX · 02-02-2014, 11:56 PM

Just posted this in the funny images thread.

Blade Raider · 02-02-2014, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

observation:

Kouta straightup refused to kill Hase, and would definitely have refused to kill Yuuya if he knew.

But he had no problems blasting all of those Kuroukage Dandelion Riders. I mean, those bikes straight up EXPLODED, those guys were all human soldiers that are dead!

Did he just not realize it, or is he gonna go all Punisher on anyone not his friend?

The Kurokage on the Dandeliner that Ryugen rammed into was shown being ejected from the explosion, not before. The one that gets hit by Orange Arms does the same, though it's harder to see from all the effects on screen. This suggest the Kurokages can survive the Dandeliners exploding. They just cut away to soon on the last two.

Den-O · 02-03-2014, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by XW1n5t0nX

Just posted this in the funny images thread.

Let's assume those guys actually died. I doubt he had the intent of killing them and merely wanted to get them off his tail. Though because they work for Yggdrasil he may be less forgiving and see them as more or less evil. And therefore won't have a moral dilemma over it.

Blade Raider · 02-03-2014, 12:03 AM

I suddenly want a disclaimer at the end of this episode saying "No Kurokages were killed during the making of this episode."

XW1n5t0nX · 02-03-2014, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Blade Raider

I suddenly want a disclaimer at the end of this episode saying "No Kurokages were killed during the making of this episode."

Either that or a ASPCA like video talking about how bad Kurokage abuse is

losondro · 02-03-2014, 12:07 AM

*Wishes to see Kurokages Vs. Riotroopers*

Blade Raider · 02-03-2014, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by XW1n5t0nX

Either that or a ASPCA like video talking about how bad Kurokage abuse is

Can it be a Hank Hill PSA?

02-02-2014, 11:37 PM	#51
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	Quote: Originally Posted by OptionZero observation: Kouta straightup refused to kill Hase, and would definitely have refused to kill Yuuya if he knew. But he had no problems blasting all of those Kuroukage Dandelion Riders. I mean, those bikes straight up EXPLODED, those guys were all human soldiers that are dead! Did he just not realize it, or is he gonna go all Punisher on anyone not his friend? "I WON'T KILL A HUMAN BEING!" 2 episodes later: "Hehe, Dandeliner go boom" __________________ My signature disappeared. Help.

02-02-2014, 11:39 PM	#52
Den-O Admin AKA Zordon Content Director @DenO_TokuNation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 16,328	Quote: Originally Posted by XW1n5t0nX Maybe his logic is that unless he knows them and sees them turn into a monster they're fair game? Well, unlike Micchy who's seen all the evidence, Kouta doesn't know that they could all potentially be humans. Obviously that realization hasn't hit him yet or he'd have put 2 & 2 together about what he did to Yuya. He only knows what happened to Hasse, and for all he knows that was a freak event. __________________

02-02-2014, 11:43 PM	#53
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	Quote: Originally Posted by Den-O Well, unlike Micchy who's seen all the evidence, Kouta doesn't know that they could all potentially be humans. Obviously that realization hasn't hit him yet or he'd have put 2 & 2 together about what he did to Yuya. He only knows what happened to Hasse, and for all he knows that was a freak event. Yeah, he didn't see them transform. For all he knows, the Kurokage troopers can just be robots made by Ryoma in the form of Kurokage, since he obtained Hase's data. Kouta also tends to act in the moment instead of analyze, he just goes along. Like when the Lion Inves knocked off his plate, he didn't immediately think the Genesis core could attach there, he found it out. __________________ My signature disappeared. Help.

02-02-2014, 11:56 PM	#54
XW1n5t0nX 「蝙蝠騎士の魔界<ブラム>」 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The Catacombs of Ohio Posts: 12,794	Just posted this in the funny images thread. __________________

02-02-2014, 11:59 PM	#55
Blade Raider Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,416	Quote: Originally Posted by OptionZero observation: Kouta straightup refused to kill Hase, and would definitely have refused to kill Yuuya if he knew. But he had no problems blasting all of those Kuroukage Dandelion Riders. I mean, those bikes straight up EXPLODED, those guys were all human soldiers that are dead! Did he just not realize it, or is he gonna go all Punisher on anyone not his friend? The Kurokage on the Dandeliner that Ryugen rammed into was shown being ejected from the explosion, not before. The one that gets hit by Orange Arms does the same, though it's harder to see from all the effects on screen. This suggest the Kurokages can survive the Dandeliners exploding. They just cut away to soon on the last two. __________________ My Customs - Updated 7/15/12. TMNT Customs

02-03-2014, 12:07 AM	#59
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