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08-21-2022, 06:15 PM | #11 |
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The only good thing from this episode is Vice become a giant duck.
Overall, most of the parts from this episode is really boring.... The next episode, it still looks really boring. But Decade final episode is still the worst final episode in Kamen Rider series. Last edited by Blade Fang; 08-21-2022 at 06:17 PM.. |
08-21-2022, 10:02 PM | #12 |
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08-21-2022, 11:19 PM | #13 |
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Wait am I the only one who found Vice's gambit touching? I mean, yeah it could have been better executed but it still tugged my heartstrings somewhere.
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08-22-2022, 09:31 AM | #14 |
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I think this is one of the better episodes lately, but it also feels... misplaced? It feels like the kind of drama that shouldn't happen at the very end. One thing I liked about this episode is how it had more moments of levity. Revice in general feels lacking on that front a lot of the time, and having small scenes to endear you to characters like Vice going shopping and Hiromi and George arguing over how to say parfait on their date is just... really welcome!
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Personally, I'd say Gaim has the worst final episode. Followed by Ryuki and then, Decade.
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08-23-2022, 11:18 AM | #15 |
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Ending the series with Vice dying is…hu…well it’s weird they didn’t find a way to rewrite the contract or anything.
I think it sucks. This whole ?*Ikki is forgetting things*? is shitty. He is the only one to have drawbacks while transforming it’s stupid af. |
08-23-2022, 05:49 PM | #16 |
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But aside from that, of the Igarashi's, he was the only one to make a contract. Kagerou just emerged from Daiji due to his inner feelings being let loose, while Lovekov was just the result of Sakura acknowledging her weaknesses. They never actually made contracts with their demons. I think Genta did something or another, but I couldn't be assed to watch Vail and see
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08-24-2022, 06:50 AM | #17 |
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Tokunation administration, I think these comments should be deleted. Yes, and block the profile itself, because this is a clear hatred with a claim to trolling.
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08-24-2022, 07:05 AM | #18 |
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Once again, I respect and appreciate Hanta Kinoshita's decision to focus more on its characters in these few episodes. This story started with our protagonist, Ikki and Revice. So it's no-brainer for the show to end with these two characters as the focal point. It's kinda refreshing to see a Kamen Rider's final episodes to be so calming and warming like this. There's no bombastic apocalypse like Saber and no huge tension like Zero-One. It's refreshing to see these characters to have daily activities like normal person. Even Vice's actions in this episodes more or less an annoying prank. This might be the most relaxing several episodes leading to the finale since Agito's epilogue arc. Once again, I can't stress how much I love the way these last couple of episodes were shaping up. I will elaborate more about my thoughts of Revice next week but up to this point, I have a nice experience watching Revice. Not as good as Saber but there's less head-banging moments than Zero-One.
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08-24-2022, 08:25 AM | #19 |
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Yikes this person really made a brand new account to validate their negative feelings about a kids TV show. Maybe find a new hobby, mate.
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08-25-2022, 01:26 PM | #20 |
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So Ikki's amnesia stuff is only used to wrap-up the story. Kinda explains why it's so little brought up before, despite it being the lead character's arc. Now I know the reason why it's so left out, but this doesn't change my view of how it's another Revice wasted potential that it made Ikki seem overshadowed in the 2nd half of the show instead (after what I think, is a good MC potential of exploring hero complex problems).
Turns out George still appeared after last seen breaking down over Masumi, and not only that the "date" Hiromi asked him before actually happened here, he's quite significant here to use his scientist knowledge to theorize something (which he didn't do so due to being temporarily villainous). About how the contract between Ikki and Vice hasn't ended because .... and Ikki previously acknowledged Vice as something more than a partner, family. That'd be normally touching, if not for how it's the actual cause of the tragedy in this episode. Though the amnesia arc is quite a waste especially for Ikki's role, I do feel bad at how in Ikki's POV here, Vice is truly the scumbag he despised at the beginning of the series, though now he had hard time accepting it due to Vice being his actual partner for so long. It personally hits home for me as, though I often assume the worst of people, that assumption turning to be the truth is also my biggest fear, and Ikki would go through that here regarding how he hated Vice at first for justified reasons. Ikki not being able to fit in with his family and later leaving them also at least increases the impact of Ikki's amnesia, despite that it's only him forgetting, not others. The Igarashis trying to get him back is a more difficult task than imagined, and it requires more than just reminding him that they're his family, but also reminding him of their quirks, banters, etc. A̶t̶ ̶l̶e̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶m̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶A̶r̶u̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶e̶a̶c̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶ ̶I̶z̶u̶ ̶a̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶e̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶Z̶e̶r̶o̶-̶O̶n̶e̶.̶ A loss of a family member would be hard to swallow, even if it's only one member, and now, it'd be what potentially happened to Ikki, had he killed Vice and that his memories would return by that. I'd tolerate Vice's antics in this episode, as unlike many other cruel to be kind approaches, this one's genuinely has no other solution to solve Ikki's problem (while other cruel to be kind scenario got the audience, or sometimes people, subjectively paint that method as the only way), as per how the contract worked, and for here, hating Vice is the main objective here, instead of the usual side effect of someone being cruel to be kind. And perhaps, there are no real damage done to everyone, other than emotional damage to Ikki alone. Though I predicted it, I genuinely laughed too seeing Sakura and Yukimi holding ketchup bottles at the end. Other than that, this is also a display of teamwork done by all the cast (except Ikki), to have everyone being onboard with Vice's plan to return Ikki's memories, and have each of them serve their roles well, probably even some of the civilians there. The cast perhaps can make a good movie/TV show team too by this! Other than comedy material, Vice weaponizing a rubber duck to "defeat" Dadstream is also a sight to behold. The duck also provides some real spectacle that makes itself look "strong" to put down Destream. It's also a call-back to Revice: The Movie (though haven't watched it yet). Quote:
At least at their early portrayal, unpopular but I also found some similarities between George and Aguilera. Both have similar style to me of speaking to others, presents smile and joyful disposition but has obvious maliciousness among it, won't treat others seriously, constantly taunting others. If George is a Kamen Rider fan, then Aguilera could be the kaijin counterpart to him (the kaijin fan instead), who gets excited when the stronger Deadmans appear, also only interacting with humans who show potential to become Phase 2 Deadman or higher.
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