[SPLIT LIP]

Honestly? Locke would fucking HATE Ryuki. It's everything he finds frustrating about Kamen Rider rolled up in a bundle.

I can see him liking Zolda, maybe a few side characters, and it's final episode was fuckign FLAWLESS until the halfway mark, but there's a lot of Ryuki that's just bad. It was demented, and not always in a good way. So many main characters were a waste, the fighting was hit or miss, the effects dog-awful, and the story meandered A LOT.

I liked it, but it's one of those times where "I like this, but I know it stinks." It had plenty of good. I can't think of anything with Zolda I didn't like, but it had so much bad as well. Ren was so. Utterly. BORING. He was every bad anime male protagonist trope in one.

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

You're passing judgment on a show you haven't seen and have no intention on watching.
I don't care what you think of the show, just that you flat out stated that you won't watch it, but still choose to call it horrible?

Actually he didn't say that at all.

He said everything he heards SOUNDS horrible. He's heard nothing to make him want to watch it.

That's totally justifiable. He's not judging the show, he's judging what people have said about it.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Actually he didn't say that at all.

He said everything he heards SOUNDS horrible. He's heard nothing to make him want to watch it.

That's totally justifiable. He's not judging the show, he's judging what people have said about it.

Fair enough.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

You're passing judgment on a show you haven't seen and have no intention on watching.
I don't care what you think of the show, just that you flat out stated that you won't watch it, but still choose to call it horrible?

I'm not passing judgement, I think you misread my post, I said everything I've ever heard about Ryuki SOUNDS horrible. Nothing I've ever read about it makes me want to watch it, and as I have an emotional attachment to the suits as they were used in Dragon Knight it gives me even less motivation to try it.

Ooop shit Ninja'd, cheers Split.

[MaskedRiderAsakura]

I have to say though, Kitaoka >>>> Drew. A million times.


I liked Drew in DK but then I saw Ryuki and realized how underutilized Zolda/Torque is used.

Zolda's Ryuki's 3rd main Rider, but in DK he's just another henchman.


Which sucked because Torque/Zolda has the coolest powerset, a top 3 suit design, and in Ryuki, I loved his character because he's the only Rider that played the war smart.


And honestly, Locke I think I was several episodes into KRDK and then I started watching Ryuki and now, I link the suits to their japanese counterparts more than their American counterparts. I just like the characters better. I will applaud KRDK for actually using all of the Riders in their series though.

[Dr Kain]

You know what makes Ryuki better than Dragon Knight? The fact that death really means death in Ryuki and venting in Dragon Knight just means going to the Shadow Realm. I mean an alternate dimensional hospital to be healed. It takes out all of the credible threat to losing.

[XW1n5t0nX]

I'll pretty much always link those suits to Ryuki. It's the better show (IMO). Then again I am biased since Ryuki is my favorite series.

[Locke]

Comparing a kids TV show in the US to a kids TV show in Japan purely on the use of death as a narrative device is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. The kind of stuff Japanese kids TV shows get away with barely makes it into adult films in the US, so what do you expect?

No, the retconning at the end doesn't get an excuse, that is all Dragon Knight's fault. But minus Go-Busters I can't think of one other toku show where a major character death isn't retconned at the end anyway.

I don't care if you don't like Dragon Knight, power to you, by why is the reasoning for disliking the show always so shitty? It seems like people just want to hate on this show for the sake of hating on it, I don't think I've ever read a genuinely solid criticism of the show in my entire time on this forum expect maybe bad editing, but is that really a reason to hate a WHOLE show?

[Powerman293]

I'm only on the first half but the main reasons why I dislike Dragon Knight are that it's a poor man's Rider war so far. The reason why is because none of the villain characters outside if Xaviax have any distinct personality. If they swapped Torque and Strikes characters, I probably wouldn't even notice since they act so similarly. and the fact that the only reason why the heroes win so far is villain incompetence. Every time I hear, "I got this" or "I'll get him next time"from the Rider (s) of the week in front of Xaviax, I want to flip my shit harder then the miscommunication shit in Faiz.

[Locke]

I thought they had quite clearly defined personalities personally, at least at the start. I remember the second half laid things on a little think and I really can't remember much about Axe or Spear or anyone like that as they just started to come in clumps, it seemed. But the first eight or so were pretty memorable in my books but then I have nothing in Ryuki to compare it to, so I'm just watching it with its own merits as a show in mind.

[Powerman293]

Well the show is pretty fucking boring. There, is that a legitimate answer? The reasons I listed above of boring villains and the story relying on one plot contrivance is nothing in comparison to the show being boring.