The All Encompassing POKÉMON Thread

Matrixbeast · 09-10-2014, 12:29 PM

I dunno about that. Lots of Pokemon with the X-ilate abilities didn't really get the moves that would benefit them beyond Pinsir.

Baltan II · 09-10-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I dunno about that. Lots of Pokemon with the X-ilate abilities didn't really get the moves that would benefit them beyond Pinsir.

Blastoise got Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse and Dragon Pulse in Gen VI. Tyrantrum already has every bite. Rock Head's range is admittedly very limited thanks to Head Smash being so strong. Aerilate Mega Salamence is going to be a pain simply thanks to Return alone, assuming it doesn't also get Quick Attack or Extreme Speed (probably won't). Normalize is awful no matter what and fittingly on an awful Pokémon. Pixilate should prove great for Mega Altaria, while Mega Gardevoir and Sylveon are good as well but limited only because Hyper Voice isn't VGC-legal. There's nothing wrong with Refrigerate either except that it's on a terrible Pokémon as well.

I definitely would not agree with your assessment. Movepools are only a major issue for the other two Pixilate users (and only in VGC-style gameplay) and Rock Head Aerodactyl.

Matrixbeast · 09-10-2014, 12:51 PM

*Shrugs* If you say so.
I'm just looking at Pixilate and Refrigerate's shit range.

Baltan II · 09-10-2014, 01:13 PM

Again, Refrigerate isn't the problem, Aurorus is. You could give the longneck Boomburst and it would still get outsped by crap like Swalot or faint to a Mud Slap. Built-in BoltBeam and STAB Freeze-Dry and it still sucks, unfortunately.

All it would take to "fix" Pixilate, which isn't actually awful right now, is make it so one way or another Sylveon and Gardevoir can learn Hyper Voice in ORAS. Round is already fantastic in doubles. Giving either one Boomburst would definitely be broken, and Double-Edge/Quick Attack Pixilate on Sylveon is something. Not a great something considering its attack stat, but something.

losondro · 09-10-2014, 01:21 PM

Echoed voice is actually a good substitute for hyper voice. Granted it needs to be used a few times in order to reach a high damage range but it still works.

Matrixbeast · 09-10-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baltan II

Again, Refrigerate isn't the problem, Aurorus is. You could give the longneck Boomburst and it would still get outsped by crap like Swalot or faint to a Mud Slap. Built-in BoltBeam and STAB Freeze-Dry and it still sucks, unfortunately.

All it would take to "fix" Pixilate, which isn't actually awful right now, is make it so one way or another Sylveon and Gardevoir can learn Hyper Voice in ORAS. Round is already fantastic in doubles. Giving either one Boomburst would definitely be broken, and Double-Edge/Quick Attack Pixilate on Sylveon is something. Not a great something considering its attack stat, but something.

Alright. Fair enough.

GoseiWonder · 09-10-2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by losondro

Echoed voice is actually a good substitute for hyper voice. Granted it needs to be used a few times in order to reach a high damage range but it still works.

Pixilate Metronome Echoed Voice?

Deathryuger · 09-10-2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by losondro

Mega Gallade, Mega Sharpedo, and Mega Camerupt confirmed!!!

Sweet! Now one of my official Pokemon hunters gets a mega evo and a sweet cape.

losondro · 09-10-2014, 08:17 PM

The shipping just became real:

Rocky505 · 09-11-2014, 12:30 AM

Gallade is still Psychic/Fighting and has Inner Focus as his ability
Kyogre's new move is Origin Wave, Groudon's is Cliff's Blade
Rayquaza is said to hold a secret about Mega Evolutions

I believe that's the last of Corocoro this month.

09-10-2014, 12:29 PM	#10511
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	I dunno about that. Lots of Pokemon with the X-ilate abilities didn't really get the moves that would benefit them beyond Pinsir. __________________

09-10-2014, 12:47 PM	#10512
Baltan II Space Ninja Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Baltan Star (or Maryland) Posts: 1,193	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast I dunno about that. Lots of Pokemon with the X-ilate abilities didn't really get the moves that would benefit them beyond Pinsir. Blastoise got Aura Sphere, Dark Pulse and Dragon Pulse in Gen VI. Tyrantrum already has every bite. Rock Head's range is admittedly very limited thanks to Head Smash being so strong. Aerilate Mega Salamence is going to be a pain simply thanks to Return alone, assuming it doesn't also get Quick Attack or Extreme Speed (probably won't). Normalize is awful no matter what and fittingly on an awful Pokémon. Pixilate should prove great for Mega Altaria, while Mega Gardevoir and Sylveon are good as well but limited only because Hyper Voice isn't VGC-legal. There's nothing wrong with Refrigerate either except that it's on a terrible Pokémon as well. I definitely would not agree with your assessment. Movepools are only a major issue for the other two Pixilate users (and only in VGC-style gameplay) and Rock Head Aerodactyl. __________________ Got MonsterArts? I've got money! \| Figuarts, Movie TFs and More for Sale/Trade!

09-10-2014, 12:51 PM	#10513
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	Shrugs If you say so. I'm just looking at Pixilate and Refrigerate's shit range. __________________

09-10-2014, 01:13 PM	#10514
Baltan II Space Ninja Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Baltan Star (or Maryland) Posts: 1,193	Again, Refrigerate isn't the problem, Aurorus is. You could give the longneck Boomburst and it would still get outsped by crap like Swalot or faint to a Mud Slap. Built-in BoltBeam and STAB Freeze-Dry and it still sucks, unfortunately. All it would take to "fix" Pixilate, which isn't actually awful right now, is make it so one way or another Sylveon and Gardevoir can learn Hyper Voice in ORAS. Round is already fantastic in doubles. Giving either one Boomburst would definitely be broken, and Double-Edge/Quick Attack Pixilate on Sylveon is something. Not a great something considering its attack stat, but something. __________________ Got MonsterArts? I've got money! \| Figuarts, Movie TFs and More for Sale/Trade! Last edited by Baltan II; 09-10-2014 at 01:19 PM..

09-10-2014, 01:21 PM	#10515
losondro Resident priest of Godoka Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,176	Echoed voice is actually a good substitute for hyper voice. Granted it needs to be used a few times in order to reach a high damage range but it still works. __________________ Necrozma, thirsts for your light!