What Are You Watching? (Movie Edition)

Paladin · 11-08-2014, 11:05 PM

Saw that the '89 Batman film had been added to Netflix so I thought I'd check it out.

...Holy crap; this does not hold up at all.

The plot is a mess; events are barely connected and motivation for anyone & anything is barely explained. We get virtually no characterization for Batman & even less for his supposed Love Interest Vickie Vale. Why does she care so much about him & why is he willing to risk the secret of Batman after ONE DATE?!

Jack Nicholson as The Joker is funny for about five minutes and then just grates on you for the rest of time. Some of his antics are WAY too over the top for a movie ostensibly made as an extended toy commercial. And what exactly is added to this story or the overall Bat-mythos with the "reveal" that he killed the Waynes????

I don't think Tim Burton understands a damn thing about the Batman character, especially considering that Batman announces at the onset of his final fight with Joker I'm going to kill you. Even considering the less-than-impressive comics at the time this was made, that seems way outside any incarnation of Batman before or since. Hell, I'm pretty sure he DID kill at least two of Joker's minions on the way up to the church and it's never spoken of by anyone else!

Don't waste any more time on this.

Matrixbeast · 11-08-2014, 11:31 PM

Batman goes on a killing spree in the sequel.
Like, it's crazy how many minions he straight up kills, completely intentionally, in Returns.

Aside: I didn't even realize the first Burton Batman film was on Netflix.

Also, I think, in hindsight, it's rather clear that Burton just doesn't "Get" Batman, so to speak. I honestly think he took the job because of the color palate he got to use for it.

Now I'm curious if Superman 2 (Another 80's comic movie commonly regarded as one of the best) holds up...

thunderstrike541 · 11-09-2014, 12:54 AM

Super Hero Saturday:
Week 1:

Man of Steel (2013):

If you like a movie that had footage shot by what seems to be an inexperienced camera man, and that movie has an overabundance of action, then this is the movie for you. On the bright side.... the acting and the score are good. *weak laugh*

I get that this is the origin story, but COME ON!!!! What person decided to scatter all of Kal-El's history all over the place? One second, we are in present day, then all of a sudden, we see Clark as a child, then back to present, then back to child. Just..... *muffled scream*

Anyway, I feel that this movie could have been a whole lot better if the story wasn't all over the place and the footage DIDN'T look like it was shot by a high schooler. Superman's character development was great. In fact, most of the characters had great character development. I like the fact that Clark doesn't start working at the Daily Planet until the end of the movie. I like that we don't have a Superman/ Lois romance in this (granted, we will have one in the next movie, but it's better than Frozening it) and..... *gets to the part where Supes and Lois kiss* *eye twitches* Ok.... At least there wasn't an established relationship until close to the end of the movie.

I really don't like this movie.... at all.... I just hope that Batman vs. Superman is better.

I give this movie 6 Unneeded Explosions out of 10

KRX · 11-09-2014, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Batman goes on a killing spree in the sequel.
Like, it's crazy how many minions he straight up kills, completely intentionally, in Returns.

Aside: I didn't even realize the first Burton Batman film was on Netflix.

Also, I think, in hindsight, it's rather clear that Burton just doesn't "Get" Batman, so to speak. I honestly think he took the job because of the color palate he got to use for it.

Now I'm curious if Superman 2 (Another 80's comic movie commonly regarded as one of the best) holds up...

I don't think it does. It's a bit too long and slightly nonsensical.

Matrixbeast · 11-09-2014, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRX

I don't think it does. It's a bit too long and slightly nonsensical.

I honestly never felt the Superman films were all that amazing to begin with (And before someone gets angry, no, I wasn't "Spoiled" by the current day super hero flicks. I grew up in an era where freaking Spawn was in the running for top 5 comic book movies at the time), so hearing that doesn't make me particularly interested in rewatching now...

Dr Kain · 11-09-2014, 10:50 AM

The Rebirth of Mothra - I'm not going to spend too much time on this movie because it just flat out sucked!! The effects was some of the worst (especially the CGI) ever, the plot was crap, the characters were as flat as their acting, but worst of all, the movie was just flat out boring. Nothing even happens until an hour into the movie, making this one of the worst Toho Kaiju movies I have ever seen. It can only go up from here, right? I give it a 3/10.

The Burton Batman is a good movie for its time, but yeah, it doesn't hold up well. It is still better than TDKRises though. Plus, Keaton's bat suit is still by far the best bat suit in live action to date.

Never cared for the Superman movies.

Paladin · 11-09-2014, 01:16 PM

Netflix also added the 1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film recently.

THIS one is still definitely worth the price of admission. Its well shot, the actors are pretty good, the suits are still amazing and the action scenes work really well.

I will say the one thing that comes up short in the film is Shredder. We never get much insight into his motivation behind the Foot Clan crime spree OR what his interest in the mutants is- in particular why he keeps Splinter alive for apparently no reason.

I give it an 8/10. And it is impossible to watch and not crave pizza.

KokoroRider · 11-09-2014, 02:14 PM

About to watch Big Hero 6!

Dr Kain · 11-09-2014, 06:49 PM

Mothra II - Oh my god. So we have three annoying kids being chased by two adults for a Furby while a Zelda dungeon boss plays lazertag with Mothra. And in the midst of it all is a poor innocent lost level to Donkey Kong Country with every cliche temple gimmick imaginable. Can this movie get any more dumb? Oh yeah, and jesus, Sony can not even stay consistent with their subs in the same movie trilogy as Mona is not Moll. WTF people?! I'm giving this pile of **** a 2/10 stars.

H3N51N · 11-09-2014, 06:59 PM

Just finished Earth To Echo. More fun than I thought it'd be.

11-08-2014, 11:05 PM	#1141
Paladin Have Zord, Will Travel Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: MI Posts: 5,961	Saw that the '89 Batman film had been added to Netflix so I thought I'd check it out. ...Holy crap; this does not hold up at all. The plot is a mess; events are barely connected and motivation for anyone & anything is barely explained. We get virtually no characterization for Batman & even less for his supposed Love Interest Vickie Vale. Why does she care so much about him & why is he willing to risk the secret of Batman after ONE DATE?! Jack Nicholson as The Joker is funny for about five minutes and then just grates on you for the rest of time. Some of his antics are WAY too over the top for a movie ostensibly made as an extended toy commercial. And what exactly is added to this story or the overall Bat-mythos with the "reveal" that he killed the Waynes???? I don't think Tim Burton understands a damn thing about the Batman character, especially considering that Batman announces at the onset of his final fight with Joker I'm going to kill you. Even considering the less-than-impressive comics at the time this was made, that seems way outside any incarnation of Batman before or since. Hell, I'm pretty sure he DID kill at least two of Joker's minions on the way up to the church and it's never spoken of by anyone else! Don't waste any more time on this. __________________ TWITTER: Paladin4221 Check out my SALES THREAD Please! Every Little Bit Helps!

11-08-2014, 11:31 PM	#1142
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	Batman goes on a killing spree in the sequel. Like, it's crazy how many minions he straight up kills, completely intentionally, in Returns. Aside: I didn't even realize the first Burton Batman film was on Netflix. Also, I think, in hindsight, it's rather clear that Burton just doesn't "Get" Batman, so to speak. I honestly think he took the job because of the color palate he got to use for it. Now I'm curious if Superman 2 (Another 80's comic movie commonly regarded as one of the best) holds up... __________________

11-09-2014, 12:54 AM	#1143
thunderstrike541 Chōjin Sentai Jetman! Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,465	Super Hero Saturday: Week 1: Man of Steel (2013): If you like a movie that had footage shot by what seems to be an inexperienced camera man, and that movie has an overabundance of action, then this is the movie for you. On the bright side.... the acting and the score are good. weak laugh I get that this is the origin story, but COME ON!!!! What person decided to scatter all of Kal-El's history all over the place? One second, we are in present day, then all of a sudden, we see Clark as a child, then back to present, then back to child. Just..... muffled scream Anyway, I feel that this movie could have been a whole lot better if the story wasn't all over the place and the footage DIDN'T look like it was shot by a high schooler. Superman's character development was great. In fact, most of the characters had great character development. I like the fact that Clark doesn't start working at the Daily Planet until the end of the movie. I like that we don't have a Superman/ Lois romance in this (granted, we will have one in the next movie, but it's better than Frozening it) and..... gets to the part where Supes and Lois kiss eye twitches Ok.... At least there wasn't an established relationship until close to the end of the movie. I really don't like this movie.... at all.... I just hope that Batman vs. Superman is better. I give this movie 6 Unneeded Explosions out of 10 Last edited by thunderstrike541; 11-09-2014 at 01:04 AM..

11-09-2014, 01:54 AM	#1144
KRX Mild-Mannered Reporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Everywhere and nowhere, according to String Theory. Posts: 5,462	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast Batman goes on a killing spree in the sequel. Like, it's crazy how many minions he straight up kills, completely intentionally, in Returns. Aside: I didn't even realize the first Burton Batman film was on Netflix. Also, I think, in hindsight, it's rather clear that Burton just doesn't "Get" Batman, so to speak. I honestly think he took the job because of the color palate he got to use for it. Now I'm curious if Superman 2 (Another 80's comic movie commonly regarded as one of the best) holds up... I don't think it does. It's a bit too long and slightly nonsensical. __________________ \|Tumblr\|Twitter\|Pinterest\|

11-09-2014, 02:05 AM	#1145
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	Quote: Originally Posted by KRX I don't think it does. It's a bit too long and slightly nonsensical. I honestly never felt the Superman films were all that amazing to begin with (And before someone gets angry, no, I wasn't "Spoiled" by the current day super hero flicks. I grew up in an era where freaking Spawn was in the running for top 5 comic book movies at the time), so hearing that doesn't make me particularly interested in rewatching now... __________________

11-09-2014, 02:14 PM	#1148
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