The All Encompassing POKÉMON Thread

Kiwami · 08-03-2015, 01:37 PM

People talking shit like that usually have no idea about competitive Pokémon. Always use F.E.A.R. against those dudes for maximum humiliation.

Matrixbeast · 08-03-2015, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Well I'm IV breeding and you would destroy me, I can tell you that much.

Breeding is really easy since the last generation though. You can get very good Ditto's for breeding through the Friend Safari and with that new item a child can inherit 5 IV's from the parents instead of the old 3. Breeding 5-6 IV's Pokémon is really easy and not very time consuming if you do it right. Also during the actual breeding part of it you can just watch TV or a movie while your doing it.

I doubt it. I tend to train up stupid Pokemon like Fearow or Vivilion

Which new item?

Kiwami · 08-03-2015, 02:04 PM

Destiny Knot. It isn’t really new (mistake on my part), but the effect of letting the parents pass down 5 of their IV's is, that was introduced with X & Y.

Matrixbeast · 08-03-2015, 02:11 PM

Ah. I figured that was the item. Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to give it to Ditto while breeding.

Kiwami · 08-03-2015, 02:28 PM

Well it can if the IV's of Ditto are bad

Powerman293 · 08-03-2015, 02:31 PM

Is it just me, or do the pokemon games not seem optimized for giving the tools for competitive play? Just having to do a bunch of crazy grinding and online research isn't very user friendly to me. I know X and Y have been getting better with that but still.

Matrixbeast · 08-03-2015, 02:38 PM

That's because Pokemon isn't intended to reach that level of competitive play. It is competitive by nature, but it was taken a tad too far.
IVs aren't meant to be simple and easy to understand, hence why calculating them is near impossible without tool assist and why perfect IV breeding is so tedious and difficult. XY only recently made EVs easy to get, but even then, that's only if you use Super Training, which is seen as inefficient in comparison to horde battles.

Hell, the steps Pokemon took in XY to make EVs more clear is a fairly large leap, going so far as to even tell you what your Pokemon's current EVs are and how close they are to maxing them out (Being nice enough to even alter it so you max at 252 rather than 255).

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Well it can if the IV's of Ditto are bad

Well, it is HA, so I'm assuming it has good IVs since I probably got it from the Friend Safari

GoseiWonder · 08-03-2015, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Ah. I figured that was the item. Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to give it to Ditto while breeding.

It gets annoying and you end up with quite a lot of Level 1 Pokemon that just sit there, but the first time you get that 5-6 IV Pokemon... It feel good and you love it all the more.

UglyBarnacle the Barbaracle was mine.

Kiwami · 08-03-2015, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Well, it is HA, so I'm assuming it has good IVs since I probably got it from the Friend Safari

You can check it out, there's an NPC in every newer game that tells you if your Pokémon sucks or not

Matrixbeast · 08-03-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder

It gets annoying and you end up with quite a lot of Level 1 Pokemon that just sit there, but the first time you get that 5-6 IV Pokemon... It feel good and you love it all the more.

UglyBarnacle the Barbaracle was mine.

I disagree.
I felt drained and burnt when I got my first (Larvesta, I think). It really pushed my limits of how far I was willing to go to train Pokemon, and I really don't have any intention on doing it again, not even for a perfect Milotic (...Maybe...)

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Originally Posted by Kiwami

You can check it out, there's an NPC in every newer game that tells you if your Pokémon sucks or not

Neat~

08-03-2015, 01:55 PM	#12682
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	Quote: Originally Posted by Kiwami Well I'm IV breeding and you would destroy me, I can tell you that much. Breeding is really easy since the last generation though. You can get very good Ditto's for breeding through the Friend Safari and with that new item a child can inherit 5 IV's from the parents instead of the old 3. Breeding 5-6 IV's Pokémon is really easy and not very time consuming if you do it right. Also during the actual breeding part of it you can just watch TV or a movie while your doing it. I doubt it. I tend to train up stupid Pokemon like Fearow or Vivilion Which new item? __________________

08-03-2015, 02:11 PM	#12684
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	Ah. I figured that was the item. Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to give it to Ditto while breeding. __________________

08-03-2015, 02:31 PM	#12686
Powerman293 Man with a plan Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,297	Is it just me, or do the pokemon games not seem optimized for giving the tools for competitive play? Just having to do a bunch of crazy grinding and online research isn't very user friendly to me. I know X and Y have been getting better with that but still. __________________ My Twitter

08-03-2015, 02:38 PM	#12687
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	That's because Pokemon isn't intended to reach that level of competitive play. It is competitive by nature, but it was taken a tad too far. IVs aren't meant to be simple and easy to understand, hence why calculating them is near impossible without tool assist and why perfect IV breeding is so tedious and difficult. XY only recently made EVs easy to get, but even then, that's only if you use Super Training, which is seen as inefficient in comparison to horde battles. Hell, the steps Pokemon took in XY to make EVs more clear is a fairly large leap, going so far as to even tell you what your Pokemon's current EVs are and how close they are to maxing them out (Being nice enough to even alter it so you max at 252 rather than 255). Quote: Originally Posted by Kiwami Well it can if the IV's of Ditto are bad Well, it is HA, so I'm assuming it has good IVs since I probably got it from the Friend Safari __________________

08-03-2015, 03:24 PM	#12690
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	Quote: Originally Posted by GoseiWonder It gets annoying and you end up with quite a lot of Level 1 Pokemon that just sit there, but the first time you get that 5-6 IV Pokemon... It feel good and you love it all the more. UglyBarnacle the Barbaracle was mine. I disagree. I felt drained and burnt when I got my first (Larvesta, I think). It really pushed my limits of how far I was willing to go to train Pokemon, and I really don't have any intention on doing it again, not even for a perfect Milotic (...Maybe...) Quote: Originally Posted by Kiwami You can check it out, there's an NPC in every newer game that tells you if your Pokémon sucks or not Neat~ __________________