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#1281 |
Tiger Zord Power Up
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Through Time and Space
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Okay, so two things right off the bat. First is that there better be a good reason to use Alphamon as the antagonist, because I'm really sick of using the Royal Knights as a crutch for villains.
"But Maytricks, Alphamon might not be the Knight iteration. It could just be some passing by Alphamon." Bite me. Alphamon is a big fucking deal. You don't just "Use" Alphamon. You don't just throw Alphamon into a story like he was Myotismon. There better be a really good fucking reason for why he's here. Second is that I don't like this new girl. The next movie/episode set/whatever better flesh her out. Her character archetype isn't anything new (I know this is Digimon we're talking about, but it's also 2015. Cliched characters in a 90's shonen I'll forgive, but not these days) and she's just a total bore. Her Digimon is interesting, but I'm not a fan of the cross eyes thing it's going for. Whatever. The story is okay. What more can I ask for, considering that they're working with a story that was pretty much bookended with it's fucking sequel series? I do enjoy the massive retcons they're performing to 02. Like Digimon being common knowledge to the public, or that Imperialdramon is leagues stronger than Omegamon (Thank you, Digimon Adventure tri, for correcting that load of bullshit), so cool. Also, while I may like changing what 02 established, it's still maddening because I feel it's not necessary to change. I can safely say I'm curious over how things will advance, at the very least, since Alphamon basically ran a train on our cast. Why do I like Mimi more than half the cast? That shouldn't be happening. Stop that. Also, I'm interested in where Jo's story is gonna go, since the pressure of school is on his shoulders more than ever. Taichi blue screening because of wanton destruction is stupid. I know that you can't pull the "Needs of the many" thing when people are feeling emotional, but goddammit, it was unnecessary. He knows there's only 12 people (Technically more thanks to 02, but they retconned that out, too, most likely) on the planet who can combat the threats (Despite them forgetting about 4 of them), but he still cries that people could get hurt from the fights. It seemed like a pointless addition solely to create a tension between him and Yamato just to emulate the original series. The rest of the cast were par for the course. Basically exactly what I expected from high school versions of them. That's nice. The Digimon never change, which I'm thankful for. Question, though. Why did no one outside of Agumon and Gabumon advance to Perfect/Ultimate? I thought there was something restricting them, but when those two did it, it just made this a large issue. The most noticeable case being Gatomon/Tailmon, who never evolved. What, saving Angemon with big boobies for the sequel? I'm glad they splashed in bits of humor, which gave the series a sense of spirit reminiscent of Adventure. Though it wasn't anything too special, it added some life that it desperately needed. Overall, I didn't hate it as much as I expected it to, but it also wasn't anything too special to me. I guess my animosity for Adventure has grown too much over recent years, but I still can at least say it wasn't bad. I'm thinking of trying to make a gif of Alphamon whooping Birdramon and Kabuterimon, too. Also Koshiro. ![]() Thing is don't think they retconned any thing cause the other kids where kids younger then Davis and the other so parents might be protecting them the agentcy thing that young gennai help and told adults bout chosen children fact most 02 ant retconned means non of it retconned even down to the fat takeru.and hikari have there.d3 digivice.not there original ones
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#1282 |
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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I saw the first episode of Tri and I really like it so far. Watching Tri made me feel 8 years old again. Watching Tri is like meeting a old friend from elementary school 15 years ago and now seeing them again 15 years later! I hope the dub will bring back the original voice cast. It took me a while to get used to the voices since I didn't grow up watching the series subbed. I saw Digimon once in Japanese RAW on a VHS tape when I saw Revenge of Diaboromon back in 2002.
Also is the cast of Season 2 now dead? I got kinda mad when I saw them being killed off? Season 2 was my favorite as a kid.
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#1283 |
The Patient Observer
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Wakanda
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Okay, so two things right off the bat. First is that there better be a good reason to use Alphamon as the antagonist, because I'm really sick of using the Royal Knights as a crutch for villains.
"But Maytricks, Alphamon might not be the Knight iteration. It could just be some passing by Alphamon." Bite me. Alphamon is a big fucking deal. You don't just "Use" Alphamon. You don't just throw Alphamon into a story like he was Myotismon. There better be a really good fucking reason for why he's here. Second is that I don't like this new girl. The next movie/episode set/whatever better flesh her out. Her character archetype isn't anything new (I know this is Digimon we're talking about, but it's also 2015. Cliched characters in a 90's shonen I'll forgive, but not these days) and she's just a total bore. Her Digimon is interesting, but I'm not a fan of the cross eyes thing it's going for. Whatever. The story is okay. What more can I ask for, considering that they're working with a story that was pretty much bookended with it's fucking sequel series? I do enjoy the massive retcons they're performing to 02. Like Digimon being common knowledge to the public, or that Imperialdramon is leagues stronger than Omegamon (Thank you, Digimon Adventure tri, for correcting that load of bullshit), so cool. Also, while I may like changing what 02 established, it's still maddening because I feel it's not necessary to change. I can safely say I'm curious over how things will advance, at the very least, since Alphamon basically ran a train on our cast. Why do I like Mimi more than half the cast? That shouldn't be happening. Stop that. Also, I'm interested in where Jo's story is gonna go, since the pressure of school is on his shoulders more than ever. Taichi blue screening because of wanton destruction is stupid. I know that you can't pull the "Needs of the many" thing when people are feeling emotional, but goddammit, it was unnecessary. He knows there's only 12 people (Technically more thanks to 02, but they retconned that out, too, most likely) on the planet who can combat the threats (Despite them forgetting about 4 of them), but he still cries that people could get hurt from the fights. It seemed like a pointless addition solely to create a tension between him and Yamato just to emulate the original series. The rest of the cast were par for the course. Basically exactly what I expected from high school versions of them. That's nice. The Digimon never change, which I'm thankful for. Question, though. Why did no one outside of Agumon and Gabumon advance to Perfect/Ultimate? I thought there was something restricting them, but when those two did it, it just made this a large issue. The most noticeable case being Gatomon/Tailmon, who never evolved. What, saving Angemon with big boobies for the sequel? I'm glad they splashed in bits of humor, which gave the series a sense of spirit reminiscent of Adventure. Though it wasn't anything too special, it added some life that it desperately needed. Overall, I didn't hate it as much as I expected it to, but it also wasn't anything too special to me. I guess my animosity for Adventure has grown too much over recent years, but I still can at least say it wasn't bad. I'm thinking of trying to make a gif of Alphamon whooping Birdramon and Kabuterimon, too. Also Koshiro. ![]() Or in short, because they're the main two, and Digimon is known for that bullshit.
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#1284 |
The Patient Observer
Join Date: Apr 2014
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I saw the first episode of Tri and I really like it so far. Watching Tri made me feel 8 years old again. Watching Tri is like meeting a old friend from elementary school 15 years ago and now seeing them again 15 years later! I hope the dub will bring back the original voice cast. It took me a while to get used to the voices since I didn't grow up watching the series subbed. I saw Digimon once in Japanese RAW on a VHS tape when I saw Revenge of Diaboromon back in 2002.
Also is the cast of Season 2 now dead? I got kinda mad when I saw them being killed off? Season 2 was my favorite as a kid.
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#1285 |
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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Also people found daisuke name in database of tri website so we might see them show up and tell other more bout alphamon cause so fare they are the only one with the data
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#1286 |
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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I recall that in Zero 2, Gennai gave all the old guard some sort of power up that let them reach Ultimate, but then most of them, save Gabumon and Agumon, gave it up to Imperialdramon to unfreeze him from SkullSatanmon's attack and let it digivolve to Fighter mode.
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#1287 |
Mighty Morphin
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Za Warudo
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I did the thing.
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I saw the first episode of Tri and I really like it so far. Watching Tri made me feel 8 years old again. Watching Tri is like meeting a old friend from elementary school 15 years ago and now seeing them again 15 years later! I hope the dub will bring back the original voice cast. It took me a while to get used to the voices since I didn't grow up watching the series subbed. I saw Digimon once in Japanese RAW on a VHS tape when I saw Revenge of Diaboromon back in 2002.
Also is the cast of Season 2 now dead? I got kinda mad when I saw them being killed off? Season 2 was my favorite as a kid. And don't worry. I'm pretty certain they're just knocked out. I highly doubt that the 02 cast is dead. It would be incredibly insulting to their fanbase. Quote:
Thing is don't think they retconned any thing cause the other kids where kids younger then Davis and the other so parents might be protecting them the agentcy thing that young gennai help and told adults bout chosen children fact most 02 ant retconned means non of it retconned even down to the fat takeru.and hikari have there.d3 digivice.not there original ones
This doesn't have much to do with the agency, but how our protagonists acted, treating the scenario as if they 8 are the only ones on the planet who can help, despite there being hundreds of other people and Digimon partners around. Quote:
I recall that in Zero 2, Gennai gave all the old guard some sort of power up that let them reach Ultimate, but then most of them, save Gabumon and Agumon, gave it up to Imperialdramon to unfreeze him from SkullSatanmon's attack and let it digivolve to Fighter mode.
Or in short, because they're the main two, and Digimon is known for that bullshit.
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#1288 |
Mighty Morphin
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Speak the truth! Spread the word!
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#1289 |
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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I did the thing.
![]() It was a little jarring for me, too, but I adjusted quickly. And don't worry. I'm pretty certain they're just knocked out. I highly doubt that the 02 cast is dead. It would be incredibly insulting to their fanbase. Except that they did. The events in this series contradict some established concepts from 02, such as Digimon being public knowledge, people from all over the planet possessing their own partners (With the Digidestined knowing this), and some other things that I probably forgot since I treat 02 like a fever dream. This doesn't have much to do with the agency, but how our protagonists acted, treating the scenario as if they 8 are the only ones on the planet who can help, despite there being hundreds of other people and Digimon partners around. I do not recall that, but everything about Imperialdramon is fucking stupid, so I don't doubt that it happened anyway...
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#1290 |
The Patient Observer
Join Date: Apr 2014
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"Imperialdramon Fighter Mode is an alternate form of Imperialdramon Dragon Mode. The Fighter Mode gives Imperialdramon Dragon Mode a more human shape. It is also said that his fighting power is tripled. This form was first achieved in Episode 43 of Digimon Adventure 02. When the evil Digimon Daemon and its Daemon Corps appeared, Imperialdramon Dragon Mode was frozen by SkullSatamon. To free Imperialdramon Dragon Mode, the Digimon of the older DigiDestined dedigivolved from their Ultimate forms and gave their remaining power to Imperialdramon Dragon Mode, triggering the Mode Change." If you hate Imperialdramon, good for you. I don't see a reason why the season 2 cast should settle on having a lead Digimon be weaker than Omnimon, so I never had a problem with him. I did take issue with everyone else giving up what power they had just gotten back to push him to a vague, better optimized Mega form, but that's more to do with the writers shafting other characters than a fault I have with Imperialdramon itself.
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