[Matrixbeast]

Whelp, Gaim was decent, but I'm not exactly shedding tears over it's finale. I'm kind of glad it's over (And I can't wait to see how this finale is fucked up by the next Kamen Rider Taisen), as Gaim had an annoying issue of good stories, but terrible characters to center them around.
I'm not going to beat around the bush. Gaim had some of the worst characters I've seen, and I've seen Decade twice...
However, the stories were still strong and the characters that were good (Like Bravo or Kaito until the last 5 episodes), were amazing and could hold this ship steady.

Drive doesn't have particularly large shoes to fill, but I am relatively excited for it~

[Dr Kain]

How were there bad characters? Zack, Jounouchi, and Oren might not have had amazing development, and they series would have been the same without them, but they were not bad characters at all. None of the characters were utter racist jackasses like Kaixa.

As for Drive, it will never been anywhere near as good as Gaim, so I need to try to not compare it to it.

[MaskedRiderAsakura]

Bad characters? I really don't see where you're getting that from, tbh.

[Matrixbeast]

So many of the main characters that we follow were extremely one note and, to me, had nothing actually interesting about them.
Also, fuck me, Mai was a terrible central character.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Also, fuck me, Mai was a terrible central character.

That's not exactly a controversial statement. She was pretty much a macguffin for the entire last arc and not exactly useful beforehand, other than as a plot point.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

So many of the main characters that we follow were extremely one note and, to me, had nothing actually interesting about them.
Also, fuck me, Mai was a terrible central character.

Tell me a central female character in these shows that wasn't terrible? Koyomi was worse than Mai. At least Mai was a part of the show and did not sit in the background all of the time. Mai also did more than the girls from Fourze, OOO, and Decade combined.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

That's not exactly a controversial statement. She was pretty much a macguffin for the entire last arc and not exactly useful beforehand, other than as a plot point.

Aside from her connection to Kaito (That went absolutely nowhere), she was just the tool to keep Micchy from being completely evil (And she even failed at that).

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Tell me a central female character in these shows that wasn't terrible? Koyomi was worse than Mai. At least Mai was a part of the show and did not sit in the background all of the time. Mai also did more than the girls from Fourze, OOO, and Decade combined.

She may have done more, but she was still just as worthless.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Aside from her connection to Kaito (That went absolutely nowhere), she was just the tool to keep Micchy from being completely evil (And she even failed at that).

I think we can all agree that all of this could have been avoided if Mai had removed herself from the timeline entirely.

No Helheim, no Bujin Gaim, no Evil Micchy, no downward spiral in general, and most importantly, Team Gaim would actually have presentable outfits instead of looking like they bought everything at a rummage sale, and Sid would be selling bootleg DVDs out of the trunk of his car.

In short: It's all Mai's fault.

Talisman's note: the entire statement above is a joke.

[EnerPrime]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Tell me a central female character in these shows that wasn't terrible? Koyomi was worse than Mai. At least Mai was a part of the show and did not sit in the background all of the time. Mai also did more than the girls from Fourze, OOO, and Decade combined.

Man, Mai was way more useless than those girls.

Miu had the leadership skills Gentaro and Kengo both lacked to keep the herd of cats that is the KRC in line (Though Yuuki and Tomoko were pretty useless, yeah). Hina was one of the main factors in turning Ankh into a good guy, and at least tried to help the fighting with her super strength. And Natsumi actively helped Tsukasa find and connect with the Riders of each world, and eventually ended up become a Rider herself. One of only two women Riders that I can think of who never died (Mayu/Mage beng the other).

Mai was oblivious to everything until it was staring her in the face, and what few attempts she did make to help backfired due to her inability to think things through.

[Powerman293]

Mai wasn't an annoying bitch that the entire show's mythology revolved around like Yui Kanzaki. Sure, she gave Kouta the Golden Fruit, but's not like she was the only one possible of becoming the woman of the beginning.