[Powerman293]

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Originally Posted by Leo Novum

Ryuki Ep.3: Oh my God, where was this show all my life? I thought I might end up hating it because it uses cards as the power source but man, was I wrong.

The overall plot of the episode was simple but the action was better than most modern Rider shows. There's something very cathartic about a Rider not relying on random powers-ups or form changes. It was just a monster and a man, duking the hell out. Why can't we have more fights like these anymore, Toei?

Another thing, the costumes and the props. Ryuki's costume and his sword look simplistic. This ends up adding a level of realism to the whole premise in my opinion. Let's look at Gaim, Drive and Ghost and their primary weapons. Gaim is a walking talking fruity samurai and his Daidaimaru is an orange slice. Drive is car and his Handle Sword is a steering wheel. As for Ghost, he's a an orange neon sign and his Gan Gan Saber looks positively outlandish.

I am not saying all of this is bad. The costumes of Kamen Rider are part of the reason why I'm such a fan of the franchise. But compared to these guys, Ryuki looks realistic.

The fight took place at a school, another thing I appreciate. There's not a whole lotta fight venues in Kamen Rider, aren't there? A change of scenery is always welcome in my book.

Finally, the characters have this older, more mature look to them, like they're actual people concerned about some supernatural event, not just a bunch of kids. Although I maybe being hard on modern Riders too much. I mean, Kouta turned out to be a pretty mature guy despite his initial naivety, Shoutarou is a private detective and Eiji isnt half bad. But these early Heisei guys seem to have more presence, you know? And I like that.

I really like Ryuki, it's a fantastic show with cool arcs, fight scenes, characters and story.

Part of the reason Ryuki might look more realistic to you then later shows is that they filmed the early Heisei shows at a higher framerate. High framerate stuff makes detail pop out a bit more.

As for the form change stuff, there was some of that stuff in early Heisei like the various forms of Kuuga and Agito, but Ryuki has a ton of Riders, which compensates for the lack of forms.

I disagree with you about the sword thing. I don't think looking simplistic makes it inherently more practical. The daidaimaru has the orange asthetic because it's Gaim's weapon, but its still a functional short sword. However, when it is stuff like weapons with toy gimmicks, then yeah, it loses practicality. Something like the Cosmic States Sword having to plug in the huge switch is an example.

Another thing about stuff from early Heisei is a lot of it is focued on adults. Kuuga's big focus was on the responsibilty of the police force to save people, for example. Blade starts with Kenzaki getting kicked out of his apartment for being gone too long on a mission and his employer just getting completley destroyed. The only show I think of from that era that spefically focuses on kids is Faiz.

[Leo Novum]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

Part of the reason Ryuki might look more realistic to you then later shows is that they filmed the early Heisei shows at a higher framerate. High framerate stuff makes detail pop out a bit more.

You learn something new everyday.

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

The only show I think of from that era that spefically focuses on kids is Faiz.

I don't know enough about Faiz to refute your claims but that series seems quite dark to me.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

I actually don't know what you mean by that. Early Shinji is just as naive as early Kouta

I don't know why i found myself thinking that as well. Maybe it's because Shinji had an actual job while Kouta doesn't? It's just a feeling i have, not a logical thing really.

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

and if you want a more mature modern Rider, what about Shinnosuke? The man is a consummate professional.

Glad we agree on something, Fish. The reason why I didn't mention Tomari is because despite being a mature guy personality wise, he doesn't give off a mature vibe. As I said before, its not a logical thing, just an emotional thing.

[Kiwami]

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

The only show I think of from that era that spefically focuses on kids is Faiz.

Really? Because if I consider all the outright murder and darkness within the first 5 episodes I don’t think that's correct. And from what I’ve heard the show doesn’t change that tone over the course of its run.

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by Leo Novum

I don't know enough about Faiz to refute your claims but that series seems quite dark to me.

No, it's about kids as in the protagonists are literally youths. The tone is indeed pretty dark, though not as much as people play it up as sometimes. It's not too different from Ryuki's style in my opinion.

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I don't know why i found myself thinking that as well. Maybe it's because Shinji had an actual job while Kouta doesn't? It's just a feeling i have, not a logical thing really.

Well Gaim deliberately goes for the whole coming of age angle, so Kouta at the start is very much some random kid fresh out of school in a way Shinji isn't, it's understandable it would feel that way to you.

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Glad we agree on something, Fish. The reason why I didn't mention Tomari is because despite being a mature guy personality wise, he doesn't give off a mature vibe. As I said before, its not a logical thing, just an emotional thing.

Hey, I'm very agreeable when it comes to liking stuff!

In Shinnosuke's case it probably comes down to his occasional fits of childish behavior, like how over-the-top mopey he gets about his birthday being close to Christmas. Also he's pretty hotheaded sometimes. That range is what makes him interesting but again I get how you'd feel how you do.

[Powerman293]

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Originally Posted by Leo Novum

I don't know enough about Faiz to refute your claims but that series seems quite dark to me.
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Originally Posted by Kiwami

Really? Because if I consider all the outright murder and darkness within the first 5 episodes I don’t think that's correct. And from what I’ve heard the show doesn’t change that tone over the course of its run.

I should have phrased that better. He was saying that Shinji felt like an adult, and I replied that the only Early Heisei Series that didn't focus on adult characters was Faiz. One of the central mysteries of that show revolves around teenage characters that were together in Elementary school and what happened to them. Takumi and Kiba are around 18-19.

I didn't mean it focused on kids as the audience for that show. God no. Faiz has a lot of messed up stuff in it .

[XW1n5t0nX]

Fun fact, Toei actually revealed their ages on trading cards.

Takumi - 18
Mari - 16
Keitaro - 21
Kiba - 21
Yuka - 17
Naoya - 23
Kusaka - 21

[Powerman293]

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Originally Posted by XW1n5t0nX

Fun fact, Toei actually revealed their ages on trading cards.

Takumi - 18
Mari - 16
Keitaro - 21
Kiba - 21
Yuka - 17
Naoya - 23
Kusaka - 21

Mari and Kusaka's age difference has me somewhat baffled. Maybe it's just me, but I always assumed all of the Ryuseiji they were in the same grade together since Mari and Kusaka were friends, and usualy you're friends with people in the same grade.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Diamondmatter

No, and yes, in that order.
The main difference from the early episodes is all the mysteries were revealed to be bland and full of plot holes.

Bringing back to this question because stuff got in the way, I wanted to ask if they had fixed the editing of the show. One of the main reasons I quit so quickly was because I felt like the camera angles just kept changing way too quickly and scenes were too quick as if the show was being edited by someone with ADHD. It was giving me a headache.

[Fish Sandwich]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Bringing back to this question because stuff got in the way, I wanted to ask if they had fixed the editing of the show.

Yes? I might've just gotten used to it but I feel like the editing calmed down after the first chunk of the show. Just a bit, at least. It's definitely not Drive levels of crazy, anyway. I can't even remember the last time Onari yelled "ka~tsu!" while the camera got uncomfortably close to his face.

[Leo Novum]

Ryuki Ep.10: Man, this stuff is so different from Faiz. I never got past the second episode of Faiz. Everything was grey in Faiz. Ryuki is colorful in a quasi-realistic way.

The fourth Kamen Rider looks like a Metal Hero kinda guy to me. His gun looks cool.

I also enjoyed the car chase scene in one of the previous episodes. It's actually two cars bumping into each other! The last time I saw something like that, it was in OOOs when Shintarou Gouto have chase to some Greeeds, I think. I can't recall correctly.

Overall, Ryuki is turning out to be better than I expected. I'm loving it.