The All Encompassing POKÉMON Thread

Powerman293 · 08-01-2016, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

The problem comes when you look at it from all angles.
In XY, you get a Gen 1 starter about an hour after you get your Gen 6 stater, and you get their mega stone, as well, and prior to ORAS, Gen 1 had the most Mega Evos (ORAS promptly changed that by doubling the amount Gen 3 had, though

), and a multitude of Gen 1 Pokemon were readily available (Not really a fair comparison to make, since past gen Pokemon are always available, though). So now with Sun/Moon coming out, and featuring special versions of past Pokemon, and those special mons are exclusively Gen 1, it can start to feel like they're pandering to the crowd.

While Pokemon GO is making a lot of money, I don't necessarily think it is going to make the sales of Pokemon Sun and Moon skyrocket. Especially with these new forms, people are probably going to be turned off that their favorite Gen 1 pokemon either has a stupidly long neck, turned to ice, or something else. And most mobile players are notorious for not paying shit for anything, so buying a 2DS and a $40 is going to turn off a lot of people.

After watching this trailer, I kind f want to play Black and White now that I'm interested again. Is it kind of late to jump on the bandwagon and those games, or should I just wait 5 years for a remake?

To me, X and Y were uber disappointing, but this stuff looks interesting, but if Sun and Moon has a sucky postgame like X and Y does then I'm out.

Annuga · 08-01-2016, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

While Pokemon GO is making a lot of money, I don't necessarily think it is going to make the sales of Pokemon Sun and Moon skyrocket. Especially with these new forms, people are probably going to be turned off that their favorite Gen 1 pokemon either has a stupidly long neck, turned to ice, or something else. And most mobile players are notorious for not paying shit for anything, so buying a 2DS and a $40 is going to turn off a lot of people.

After watching this trailer, I kind f want to play Black and White now that I'm interested again. Is it kind of late to jump on the bandwagon and those games, or should I just wait 5 years for a remake?

To me, X and Y were uber disappointing, but this stuff looks interesting, but if Sun and Moon has a sucky postgame like X and Y does then I'm out.

Go already had an impact. It's making people remember their love. Hell, SM are the most pre-ordered games in Italy now

Matrixbeast · 08-01-2016, 05:18 PM

Honestly, X and Y are my favorite games. It was just pure fun from start to finish, and the first time I got interested in team building since Gen 3. The post game was lacking, but that's not really my main interest.

As for whether or not Sun/Moon will have a bad post game, good luck finding out. With a simultaneous worldwide release (Except in Europe, where it comes out 5 days later), you'll either have to wait for someone to get a copy early to leak it all, or delay buying the game for about a week.

barnstenchfartface · 08-01-2016, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Those sound pretty fun.
Fuck fighting types, though. It's getting way too overexposed. Also kind of disappointed that Dodrio is getting that rather than Ground, since it makes sense for a flightless bird. Oh well...The Butterfree, Ratatta, and Growlithe sound look neat. Would've liked more than Gen 1 love, though

Should be noted though, the same leak had Ninetales' new form as Fire/Fairy rather than Ice/Fairy. While the leak definitely seems credible and most of these are probably right, some of the details may be a little different.

Anyway, suuuuper pumped for all this new info. All of it is amazing and looks and sounds amazing. The ice type Alola forms look great, and Exeggcutor is so ridiculous I can't help but love it. HMs seem to be gone, which is great. Gyms too, also great. And the new mons are also great. This is the first batch of SM news that really has me wanting the game. It's shaping up to be the most unique game of the series so far.

And with the final starter evos leak appearing to be confirmed, I am jumping ship allllll the way to the Popplio camp. It's still too early to say, but I really want Popplio, Salandit and Lurantis on my team.

Matrixbeast · 08-01-2016, 05:35 PM

I do hope the leak has some wrong info, then...I'm so sick of fighting getting all the love, especially when Ice is the rarest type.

Also, oh my god. Someone else in the Popplio camp. Here I thought I would be all alone

GoseiWonder · 08-01-2016, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Turahk

Please, that Pokedex entry has nothing on this.

DEEPEST LORE! OMGWTFBBQ! XD

Powerman293 · 08-01-2016, 06:05 PM

I hope they throw in Alola Eggsecutor into Pokemon GO in the next patch just to mess with people.

Matrixbeast · 08-01-2016, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

I hope they throw in Alola Eggsecutor into Pokemon GO in the next patch just to mess with people.

Hawaii exclusive

Powerman293 · 08-01-2016, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Hawaii exclusive

I wouldn't put it past them to do something like that. Or just put them in areas where there are palm trees.

barnstenchfartface · 08-01-2016, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Also, oh my god. Someone else in the Popplio camp. Here I thought I would be all alone

Man I am all about getting a fabulous mermaid as my starter, no joke.

Also I don't really like the way the other two look that much anyway.

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Originally Posted by Powerman293

I wouldn't put it past them to do something like that. Or just put them in areas where there are palm trees.

There's a gigantic palm tree on my front yard.

I can has Exeggutor?

08-01-2016, 05:08 PM	#13971
Powerman293 Man with a plan Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,297	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast The problem comes when you look at it from all angles. In XY, you get a Gen 1 starter about an hour after you get your Gen 6 stater, and you get their mega stone, as well, and prior to ORAS, Gen 1 had the most Mega Evos (ORAS promptly changed that by doubling the amount Gen 3 had, though ), and a multitude of Gen 1 Pokemon were readily available (Not really a fair comparison to make, since past gen Pokemon are always available, though). So now with Sun/Moon coming out, and featuring special versions of past Pokemon, and those special mons are exclusively Gen 1, it can start to feel like they're pandering to the crowd. While Pokemon GO is making a lot of money, I don't necessarily think it is going to make the sales of Pokemon Sun and Moon skyrocket. Especially with these new forms, people are probably going to be turned off that their favorite Gen 1 pokemon either has a stupidly long neck, turned to ice, or something else. And most mobile players are notorious for not paying shit for anything, so buying a 2DS and a $40 is going to turn off a lot of people. After watching this trailer, I kind f want to play Black and White now that I'm interested again. Is it kind of late to jump on the bandwagon and those games, or should I just wait 5 years for a remake? To me, X and Y were uber disappointing, but this stuff looks interesting, but if Sun and Moon has a sucky postgame like X and Y does then I'm out. __________________ My Twitter

08-01-2016, 05:13 PM	#13972
Annuga Avi by @CSarracenian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 4,227	Quote: Originally Posted by Powerman293 While Pokemon GO is making a lot of money, I don't necessarily think it is going to make the sales of Pokemon Sun and Moon skyrocket. Especially with these new forms, people are probably going to be turned off that their favorite Gen 1 pokemon either has a stupidly long neck, turned to ice, or something else. And most mobile players are notorious for not paying shit for anything, so buying a 2DS and a $40 is going to turn off a lot of people. After watching this trailer, I kind f want to play Black and White now that I'm interested again. Is it kind of late to jump on the bandwagon and those games, or should I just wait 5 years for a remake? To me, X and Y were uber disappointing, but this stuff looks interesting, but if Sun and Moon has a sucky postgame like X and Y does then I'm out. Go already had an impact. It's making people remember their love. Hell, SM are the most pre-ordered games in Italy now __________________

08-01-2016, 05:18 PM	#13973
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	Honestly, X and Y are my favorite games. It was just pure fun from start to finish, and the first time I got interested in team building since Gen 3. The post game was lacking, but that's not really my main interest. As for whether or not Sun/Moon will have a bad post game, good luck finding out. With a simultaneous worldwide release (Except in Europe, where it comes out 5 days later), you'll either have to wait for someone to get a copy early to leak it all, or delay buying the game for about a week. __________________

08-01-2016, 05:35 PM	#13975
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,457	I do hope the leak has some wrong info, then...I'm so sick of fighting getting all the love, especially when Ice is the rarest type. Also, oh my god. Someone else in the Popplio camp. Here I thought I would be all alone __________________

08-01-2016, 06:05 PM	#13977
Powerman293 Man with a plan Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,297	I hope they throw in Alola Eggsecutor into Pokemon GO in the next patch just to mess with people. __________________ My Twitter