[AkibaSilver]

Early series Blade is worth watching for Tachibana alone. It's his show, the other characters are just living in it.

[LeviathanBlossom]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Ten years of men with awful hair.

This entire decade was The Time Of The Mullet in Japan It will not improve before Decade, either, not even a little

[catwhowalks]

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Originally Posted by Sunred

In terms of how the story is flowing and his presence, understandable. But technically no as proven by Decade and Zi-O merch which I will not go into details to avoid spoilers in case you did not watch those shows.

Advocates for the other side will straight up say the merch got it wrong. That's how fanatic people are about this argument.

[Kurona]

Yeah, the merch says Garren is the secondary; but it also says other dumb things like Putotyra being the final form, or Genius being a thing that happened, or Kiva existing. I forfeit that reality and substitute my own!

[Fish Sandwich]

Obsessing over labels serves little purpose. Kamen Rider didn't even start the Heisei era until a decade after Japan did. Why argue such meaningless semantics when they distract from the grander point that Garren and Chalice are both such wonderful characters? Insisting there needs to be a rigid hierarchy is usually what the villains in these shows do.

[AkibaSilver]

*Resets 'Days without the same argument over Blade's secondary' to zero*

[Sunred]

Speaking of, shouldn't this show just be titled Kamen Rider Garren? He is Rider 1 after all.

[Fish Sandwich]

We actually did pick the perfect time to have this argument, given that the next episode's title is "The Captured #2" , which, of course, refers to... Kenzaki. So obviously Bandai and Toei have just been getting it wrong for years. Garren must be the primary because he's Rider System #1, Blade is the secondary because he's Rider System #2, and then Chalice is... he's, uh...

Oh man, this is never going to end, is it?

[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Garren is the tertiary Rider. Blade is Chalice's secondary Rider.

Honestly, though, I don't care. I love them all. They're all great, and they're all primary Riders in my heart. I sometimes feel like the "We Rate Dogs" Twitter account, but for Kamen Riders.

AGITO: 13/10 very zen, does a great downward dog *wink emoji*
FAIZ: 12/10, he's a little feral but a lot adorable
BLADE: 14/10 pupper needs a buddy

And just like, forever in that vein. They're Good Riders, Brent.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

We actually did pick the perfect time to have this argument, given that the next episode's title is "The Captured #2" , which, of course, refers to... Kenzaki. So obviously Bandai and Toei have just been getting it wrong for years. Garren must be the primary because he's Rider System #1, Blade is the secondary because he's Rider System #2, and then Chalice is... he's, uh...

Oh man, this is never going to end, is it?

Well, at least we can all agree on who is definitely not the secondary a Rider.