[Kiryu]

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Originally Posted by MrHerofan

Seeing as I might finish Daredevil in the coming week, I need to ask if Arrow is worth looking into. From what I saw in the Flash and Arrow crossover in the first season of the Flash Arrow seemed like a cool show. So is it worth watching?

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

It depends what you are looking for. The first season of Arrow takes about 5-10 episodes to really kick off, but it is an enjoyable experience. The second season fixed everything the first season faltered at and gave us a truly epic season. Season 3 started out strong but then fell apart during its second half. Right now, the fourth season has been almost as strong as Season 2, but last week's episode is by far the worst episode of the entire franchise, so who knows how the season is going to finish up. If you are just looking for some great comic book action and can look past its flaws, it is an excellent show (although, no where near as good as DD). If you are easily bugged by every relationship drama that occurs in something, then probably not. The acting can be hit or miss, but thankfully the most annoying characters do improve over time.

Season 1 of Arrow is kinda rough to sit through as it is for the most part like watching a really bad soap opera but it gets toned down as the show goes on and it begins to show it's comic book routes a lot more. My opinion on Arrow is pretty much aligned with Kain's: Season 1 is mixed, Season 2 and 3 are great, but Season 4 I'm also having mixed feelings on as well, I dunno it just feels like they're running out of ideas. The main thing that bugs me about Season 4 is them doing something that goes against what made season 3 such a big deal...but it's hard to talk about without getting into spoilers.

Flash is the one show that I think has been consistently good from the get go. It's a very different tone from Arrow and thank god they toned down the annoying character drama in that. The effects are also pretty good for a show that airs weekly.

Overall, I'd say both are worth getting into but Flash is a new show still and that might be easier to pick up than Arrow is at the moment. If you were going to pick one to start off, I'd say Flash is the one to it with.

[Den-O]

Season 4 has just been a total mess. An un-intimidating villain, really really poorly constructed flashbacks, wishy-washy relationship crap for yet another year. Season 4 has totally back peddled the show. As grand as it could & should be with all these characters finally suiting up at one time together, Season 4 has squandered that potential. Every week I look for glimpses of what made the show great in seasons 2 & 3 but I generally can't find them. The Constantine & Vixen episodes were wonderful. But otherwise this season has been a major letdown. Most of that I feel can be attributed to Neil Mcdonough playing such an absurdly powerful yet immensely boring character.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by AgileSiamang7

As much as I enjoyed the Flash/Supergirl crossover, why did they have to lose twice to the villains? They effectively failed to beat them, making the heroes look weak in that "citizens save the day" moment.

Honestly Silver Banshee and Livewire should just try again, now that Barry's gone. Not like Kara had a good chance with the Speedster there.

I'm sure this isn't the last time we will see those characters, provided the show doesn't get canceled.

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Season 4 has just been a total mess. An un-intimidating villain, really really poorly constructed flashbacks, wishy-washy relationship crap for yet another year. Season 4 has totally back peddled the show. As grand as it could & should be with all these characters finally suiting up at one time together, Season 4 has squandered that potential. Every week I look for glimpses of what made the show great in seasons 2 & 3 but I generally can't find them. The Constantine & Vixen episodes were wonderful. But otherwise this season has been a major letdown. Most of that I feel can be attributed to Neil Mcdonough playing such an absurdly powerful yet immensely boring character.

I agree about the flashbacks being poorly constructed, but I don't see any issue with the relationship stuff. It's not like they haven't done this stuff in the comics (hell, they divorced Canary and Ollie in the comics within like 9 months, which was friggin dumb). The only thing I hate in Season 4 was last week's episode where they turned Felicity into an ungrateful, spiteful little bitch. I also think Darhk is far better than that joke they made out of Ra's. My only complaint is how easy it was to take him down.

I was thinking the box he had was a Mother Box, but since they used one in BvsS, WB would never allow it to be one.

[Kiryu]

Man they really went all out with the pop culture references in this week's arrow...and the bee puns.

I could've done without Queen Bee, but I think this episode of Arrow is easily the best the show's had in awhile.

[Dr Kain]

This episode was terrific and made up for last week's. I hope Curtis decides to join them permanently, even if it is next season. Not surprised about the ending though. Ollie was a moron though in the flashback. Why didn't he shoot the dude when he was down?

[FormerTitanium]

Just watched Justice League vs Teen Titans the animated movie. It was pretty neat to say, a bit character focus on Raven, but hey I hope more Teen Titans movies are coming since DC announced they would give them more movies in the future.

[Matrixbeast]

JL vs TT did capture my interest more than I thought it would. I loved the focus on Raven, and I adored the scenes about the Teen Titans. Robin was still quite grating as a lot of his scenes seem to kind of ignore the growth he underwent in the other 3 movies he got, but whatever. I look forward to more Teen Titan movies (Especially if the mid credits scene seem to imply anything. That got me so so hype~)

Though if I had one gripe, it would be Raven's delivery. Not her voice, per se, but just how she gave out her lines. She spoke too quickly for anything to feel natural. I know Raven was intentionally aiming for the emotionless style, but there were a lot of scenes where she just belted out dialogue.

[Electric Turahk]

Focus on Raven is not at all a bad thing in my book. Looking forward to finally seeing that one.

Started a bit of a DC animated binge over the weekend after realizing how many I had access to via HBO and Netflix. So I got through Batman Under the Red Hood, Year One, and Dark Knight Returns Parts 1 and 2. Next up is Son of Batman and Justice League War. Then it's back to waiting for them to get newer movies heh.

[Matrixbeast]

Apparently DC is reshooting scenes for Suicide Squad due to the positive reaction the trailer got, as "Sources" say that all the movie's jokes were in the trailer, and they're aiming to lighten the film's tone to better match the trailer.

Sources in quotations because I can't seem to find who revealed it, and I'm too lazy to read through the dozen articles reporting it just to find who the anonymous source is.

[Thessair]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Apparently DC is reshooting scenes for Suicide Squad due to the positive reaction the trailer got, as "Sources" say that all the movie's jokes were in the trailer, and they're aiming to lighten the film's tone to better match the trailer.

Sources in quotations because I can't seem to find who revealed it, and I'm too lazy to read through the dozen articles reporting it just to find who the anonymous source is.

It's apparently Devin Faraci from BMD. Umberto Gonzalez says they're just standard reshoots and aren't for comedy. They're both often full of crap (moreso Umberto in that) so it's hard to pick a side. However, I seriously wondered how the film was going to meet the GotG tone the trailer laid out since they most likely shot another OMGGRIMDARK film.