[uchihabro77]

Holy crap, Energy Riders look cool, but I am more interested in Gaim Banana and Baron Mango attacking Bravo, maybe he does get the shaft later.

EDIT- So Kurokage becomes the Stormtroppers of this series? Least they didnt give him a gun

[baltmatrix]

Makes sense that Kurokage is going to become the grunts of the series. According to Kamen Rider Wiki it and the Acorn are class C seeds and very plentiful.

[KamenRiderOOO]

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Originally Posted by baltmatrix

Makes sense that Kurokage is going to become the grunts of the series. According to Kamen Rider Wiki it and the Acorn are class C seeds and very plentiful.

Donguri (Acorn) is actually a Class B, so slightly stronger, but still mook material as it's clear they've been able to get more for themselves. So if Hideyasu/Gridon bites the dust, they could always have more Gridons too.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by baltmatrix

Makes sense that Kurokage is going to become the grunts of the series. According to Kamen Rider Wiki it and the Acorn are class C seeds and very plentiful.

I'd rarely trust the wiki for accurate info

But as OOO said they're class B.

[KamenRiderOOO]

Lockseed ratings-

D:
Himawari (Sunflower)

C:
Matsubokkuri (Pinecone)

C+:
Kurumi (Walnut)

B:
Donguri (Acorn)

A:
Orange
Banana
Budou (Grape)
Ichigo (Strawberry)
Pine (Pineapple)
Mango
Kiwi
Melon
Suika (Watermelon)
Blood Orange
Durian

[ElConvoy]

I absolutely love the energy rider designs and I am probably the only person on this planet that is glad about Zangetsu getting a new suit

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by baltmatrix

Makes sense that Kurokage is going to become the grunts of the series. According to Kamen Rider Wiki it and the Acorn are class C seeds and very plentiful.

What doesn't make sense is that Kurokage is not the lock seed. The riders are all unique, though the locks are many. Afterall, we know Gaim uses Banana, but is still Gaim.

Lock seeds have nothing to do with the rider. Gaim could use a pinecone, and still be Gaim.

[Paladin]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

What doesn't make sense is that Kurokage is not the lock seed. The riders are all unique, though the locks are many. Afterall, we know Gaim uses Banana, but is still Gaim.

Lock seeds have nothing to do with the rider. Gaim could use a pinecone, and still be Gaim.

The Sengoku Driver seems to default based on whatever LockSeed is first used by the person who first links with the Driver. That's what appears to determine the Armored Riders' base forms.

If these are all mass-produced it is likely that the Pinecone LockSeed would be the first and only one they use, which might explain why ti defaults to that appearance.

[MrHerofan]

All right so my thoughts.

The energy riders looks really cool and makes me love their designs even more and their designs are just epic. The energy riders just need to get a AC release and their figuarts I bet will look beautiful.

My theorie for the multiple Kurokages is this: when a rider dies what ever Lockseed they died with can be used in an empty faceplate less sengoku driver and summon those arm and that rider. So if Kurokages the first to bit the dust then they use his Lockseed and use that on an empty driver and we get multiple Kurokages.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Paladin

The Sengoku Driver seems to default based on whatever LockSeed is first used by the person who first links with the Driver. That's what appears to determine the Armored Riders' base forms.

No it doesn't.

The faceplates all form before a lock is used. Gaim's faceplate appeared before the fruit in his hands even became locks.

Then again, the spoiler rumour seems to be special circumstances anyway, (specifically duplicating teh Kurokage belt rather than merely making more drivers) and these duplicate Kurokages lack faceplates alltogether.