[ZeoRangerV]

At this stage I can't really see Virgo being anyone but Emoto, but part of me wants to see Ohsugi as a horoscope I can see it being wheelchair girl before it being Tomoko though.

Can't wait to see the golfing match, I've been looking forward to it since the episode synopsis was leaked.

[GeneralTekno]

Interesting, Emoto's analogy of the sun, the Earth, and the moon.

As after all, if you remove the Earth, then the moon remains, orbiting the sun and basking in its glory all by itself. Not 100% sold on him being Virgo yet though; it seems like a possibility but maybe it's a red herring.

Fun episode though. I LOVE Taurus' mind control/legal binding ability, too.

[TokuChris]

Watched the sub.

The blind girl COULD be Virgo, but I really really doubt it.

Even an image search of "Virgo" on Google reveals Virgo to be more of an angelic type of symbol, always-watching, always vigilant. If you've watched and are familiar with horoscopes, you'll notice that each Horoscope has portrayed similarities to what each astrology symbol means.

That being said, I still think Virgo is Tomoko. We don't know Virgo's powers (we know she can teleport, we know she can access the Dark Nebula) ... who is to say she can't project images of herself? Who is to say that Libra, who we know can change forms, wasn't Tomoko during the battle with Aquarius as Virgo/Tomoko sat in waiting?

Let's look.

- Tomoko received a switch but it was never destroyed, simply "thrown away"
- Tomoko has always portrayed an ability to sense Astro powers
- Tomoko wanted to be the "Moon Princess"
- The exact opposite of "angelic" is dark and gothy ... which Tomoko's non Horoscope form portrays, a perfect cover
- Virgo has always taken interest in Meteor
- - She was the one to inform Gamou of Meteor Storm
- - She was the one to stop Taurus from destroying Meteor
- - She put Aries in a coma as opposed to sending him to the Dark Nebula or erasing his memory, much like Ryuuski's friend Jirou was in a coma
- - When Ryuuski was first investigating his old school, Libra switched in to Tomoko, even though Libra doesn't know Meteor's identity, and the only time Libra witnessed Tomoko and Ryuuski was when Ryuuski saved Tomoko from the fly zodiart. So either Libra took a totally random chance at picking a form that would cause Meteor to hesitate, or Virgo has been an insider to the Horoscopes as Tomoko this entire time, and Libra used that knowledge to cause Meteor to hesitate
- - Tomoko is the only one who has ever referred to Ryuuski as "secret Kamen Rider"
- Tomoko showed no emotion to Gen "dying" but has always, ALWAYS, paid attention to Meteor

I dunno. Maybe I'm reading WAY too deep in to things, but I totally think this is the story:

Tomoko threw her switch away but it was given back to her by Libra. Since then, Tomoko has been working as Virgo, aiding the Horoscopes in their grand plan because she believes it has some greater good. But she can't escape her feelings for Ryuuski, and thus protects his identity from Gamou, but is always watching over him, as he did for her when no one knew he was Meteor. Now, she's displeased with Libra and knows he's trying to usurp Gamou, so she saves Meteor because she knows Ryuuski will use his wit and brains to beat Taurus.

Or it's the blind girl and I'm totally wrong. But the potential for awesome with Tomoko is there, and I hope they use it.

Just remember ... Tomoko was the furthest away from the group doing the Aquarius battle, closest to the trees. When everyone goes running to Gen (don't recall if we see Tomoko in that shot or not), Libra is standing/peeking out from a tree. My shapeshift theory still works!

[ZeoRangerV]

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Originally Posted by Kickback

Just remember ... Tomoko was the furthest away from the group doing the Aquarius battle, closest to the trees. When everyone goes running to Gen (don't recall if we see Tomoko in that shot or not), Libra is standing/peeking out from a tree. My shapeshift theory still works!

She was with the rest of the club the whole way through that sequence.

EDIT: Just read this over on another forum. Dunno if its been mentioned already but here's some more rumour fuel: Virgo in Japanese is "Otome-za". Otome backwards is Emoto. Given that every other Horoscope's name has been a play on their sign I'm inclined to take that as a bit more than a red-herring.

[Kiryu]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

She was with the rest of the club the whole way through that sequence.

EDIT: Just read this over on another forum. Dunno if its been mentioned already but here's some more rumour fuel: Virgo in Japanese is "Otome-za". Otome backwards is Emoto. Given that every other Horoscope's name has been a play on their sign I'm inclined to take that as a bit more than a red-herring.

I actually had a feeling that Emoto could be an enforcer myself but I was leaning more towards Gemini/Pieces. I mean think about it...he's close to Gamou and probably knows of his activities, and we don't know what he was doing while the Rabbit Hutch was being destroyed. He could've sided with him to save his own skin, for all we know.

[KamenRiderOOO]

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Originally Posted by Kiryu

I actually had a feeling that Emoto could be an enforcer myself but I was leaning more towards Gemini/Pieces. I mean think about it...he's close to Gamou and probably knows of his activities, and we don't know what he was doing while the Rabbit Hutch was being destroyed. He could've sided with him to save his own skin, for all we know.

Well, I have a feeling that Emoto might be Virgo based on this small idea: During their battle in Kyoto, Virgo managed to bring Libra back to Gamou. Only Leo was there with Libra in Kyoto, and he was probably guarding Gamou. The only way Virgo could've known that Libra was being defeated was that Virgo's human identity had to be in Kyoto. Who was researching in Kyoto? Emoto. He also didn't seem shocked when Gamou said he "killed" Kengo's father.

And now that he's here teaching Kengo and Yuki about their space travels, Tomoko noticed something about him.

[Kiryu]

Why would Emoto be shocked by something that he knew already happened? Given how closely he worked with them and all.

[GeneralTekno]

I'm hoping it's not Emoto, if only because he's only been introduced to the series near its end, while Virgo's been showing up for awhile now.

[Kiryu]

Wasn't Tomoko present when Virgo made her debut in the megamax movie?

[FieryRed]

I like this episode, but I just don't think Taurus is all that powerful. Sure, he has the abilities to suck souls from defiant students and can apparently control people who left their signature on the contracts, but he seems to be rather easily defeated by Cosmic, and he only caught Meteor by surprise when he tried to use the Storm switch. I guess it doesn't matter in the end, because like Aquarius he will probably be taken out quickly after the two-episode arc is done.