[SPLIT LIP]

Problem with Den-O is, while most time travel stories have linear cause and effect, even if time travel shouldn't be linear, Den-O only picks convenient cause and effect in these episodes. Like, why is destruction happening in the past and present at the same time?

Then again, the show later introduces it's own explanation for time travel, which works way better than this.

[losondro]

It feels good to see this all again but this time I actually have my den-o belt

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Problem with Den-O is, while most time travel stories have linear cause and effect, even if time travel shouldn't be linear, Den-O only picks convenient cause and effect in these episodes. Like, why is destruction happening in the past and present at the same time?

Then again, the show later introduces it's own explanation for time travel, which works way better than this.

I think you're arguing just to argue at this point. But on the chance you're not.

Allow me to school.

*Cracks knuckles*

The reason that destruction happens in the present at the same time it happens in the past is because when you change something in the past it affects the present. Marty allowed Old Biff to give Young Biff the Gray's Sports Almanac and look what happened to 1985. Same thing applies here. Because the Imagin hadn't gone into the past yet do to the damage there was nothing destroyed in modern day Japan. But when he went back through the Time Portal and began wrecking the past, it had to change in the future.

That and it's a show where young men and women use belts to transform into Fruit Samurai, Astronauts with Fast Food Robots, and Vampire Bats. So I don't think reality applies.

Just saying.

[losondro]

Basically den-o follows the one doctor who rule, wibbly wobbly timey wimey.

[Den-O]

It really is akin to Doctor Who. Time is happening relative to the Doctor's position in it. Regardless of what he's doing the present marches onward around him. But if something happens in the past that's tied to a point in the future/present, it changes. Like Den-O here, the event tied to the present reshapes the present around it.

The Doctor is also not supposed to be able to travel within his own timeline and effect it but that rule kind of got thrown out in Day of The Doctor. Similarly we know later in Den-O that Singular Points can't be altered or at least they aren't supposed to be able to be. But as we know that too changes later.

Short hand: it all get sort of timey wimey.

[Sentai]

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Originally Posted by losondro

Basically den-o follows the one doctor who rule, wibbly wobbly timey wimey.

Stuff.

[NGW]

I watched the first episode of Den-O a while back and started the second. Maybe I'll use this as an excuse to watch the season..

[Azurath TheRider]

Den-O was the first series I watched all the way through. It is one of my favorites, mostly because of the design of the riders and the story. I don't really care for any of the spin-offs though. Toei, if you want to bring Den-O back, that's okay...just do it already!

[Switchblade]

Episode 1 de gozarimasu de-- yeah, not doing that again

I started rewatching Den-O a couple years ago but never finished. I'm glad to have an excuse to go through it again. That said, this is actually the fourth or fifth time I've seen the first episode (I sneaked a few previews back when I was first watching the Heisei shows in order back in '09). I think it still holds up as one of the best pilots in Rider's whole history. You get a strong sense of the main characters, a clear sense of the show's tone, and my favorite first henshin/fight ever (I will never stop loving the accidental swipe of the pass over the belt).

I'll also say this now: Takeru Satoh is, hands down, the best actor we've ever gotten as a main Rider.He plays six characters on this show and they all feel unique and fully realized; he's the Tatiana Maslany of Kamen Rider.

[Powerman293]

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Originally Posted by Sentai

That and it's a show where young men use belts to transform into Fruit Samurai, Astronauts with Fast Food Robots, and Vampire Bats. So I don't think reality applies.

Just saying.

Fixed.

I won't be participating in this LWW. Particularlly because I don't want to go into Den-o territory. The Imagin hijinx sound too dumb for me. And yes, I know its more then that and its a Kobyashi show and I liked Ryuki and blah blah blah blah blah.