Kamen Rider Drive Episode 46- "Why They Had To Fight" Discussion

Tenebrous · 09-14-2015, 09:02 AM

This is a pretty good episode, and gets the emotions right. The lazy suit and the reappearance of the viral cores having no in-show explanation does hurt it a bit but the moment is legitimately sad and it is a cool fight too.

The fact that Mass Production Mach was just completely dropped was kind of annoying though, and I also would have liked Kiriko to have had a significant role.

KyoryuGreen · 09-14-2015, 09:35 AM

This was an extremely great episode. I loved Mach vs Gold Drive so much, all of Gou's emotions were fantastic and this is one of the best Secondary Rider stories ever told. I loved Mach Type Chaser so much and him finishing off Banno with the Shingou Axe. I can't wait to see Drive vs Heart next week and to see how they stop this Sigma device as well. I am loving these final episodes so much right now. I am sad to see Medic go but that was a great scene just like with Chase and Brain. I love Gou so much! It had to be said again.

Koh · 09-14-2015, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KyoryuGreen

This was an extremely great episode. I loved Mach vs Gold Drive so much, all of Gou's emotions were fantastic and this is one of the best Secondary Rider stories ever told. I loved Mach Type Chaser so much and him finishing off Banno with the Shingou Axe. I can't wait to see Drive vs Heart next week and to see how they stop this Sigma device as well. I am loving these final episodes so much right now. I am sad to see Medic go but that was a great scene just like with Chase and Brain. I love Gou so much! It had to be said again.

I can't wait to see where you add him to your sig because you somehow keep managing to fit characters in there.

Switchblade · 09-14-2015, 11:35 AM

Really good episode; I actually got so invested that I swore out lout when it ended on a cliffhanger. If I had any real complaint it would probably be how disconnected the Gou and Shinnosuke halves of the episode feel, but they tie together enough for it to work, even if there is still a drop in momentum when we move from Banno's defeat to Shinnosuke fighting random Roidmudes in a hallway. And as far as Banno's ultimate defeat goes? Even the cheesy wobbling belt can't undo Gou's awesome response to the Signal Axe's catchphrase.

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Originally Posted by Tenebrous

This is a pretty good episode, and gets the emotions right. The lazy suit and the reappearance of the viral cores having no in-show explanation does hurt it a bit but the moment is legitimately sad and it is a cool fight too.

Neither of those bothered me. There likely wasn't room in the budget to pay for a brand new suit for Mach Chaser, especially since it will probably never appear again and Ghost starts in two weeks. And the shfit Cars have long displayed sentience, so why not Machine Chaser's, too?

MaskedRiderAsakura · 09-14-2015, 01:17 PM

Next time on Kamen Rider feels, more feels.

Gou destroying Banno was easily one of the best scenes I've seen in a Rider show.

I also like how this all goes back to when Gou said that Drive was the protector and Mach was the destroyer. Mach was the one that killed off Banno for good, while Drive is the one tasked with saving the world.

Kiwami · 09-14-2015, 02:17 PM

Gotta hand it to the poor man’s Evel Knievel: At this point he’s a much more interesting and developed character than Shinnosuke. Looking back, the thing with his partner was rather unnecessary and irrelevant, the story arc with his dad’s murder case wasn’t that great either, it stood out only because of things like Nira and the Roidmude schemes more than anything.

But Gou got a nice character arc that resulted in a satisfying finale. I still can’t stand this guy no matter how hard I try, but at least he is a character with some interest.

It was a nice episode, didn’t hit me as hard as people who actually like the show I’d presume, but still some hilarious stuff. Like for example, Chase’s “remnants”. I love how they took a whole dump of electric scrap and scattered it across the set alongside rags of his clothing. That’s the Tokusatsu equivalent of the Mortal Kombat fatalities where 3 skulls, 6 ribcages and 200 bones fly out of an exploding body. Hilarious.

But yeah, the new form was half-assed and super lazy as expected. It was especially bad when this form gave Gou the power boost to defeat the guy the 3 Riders couldn’t deal with as a group before. Oh of course, it’s his “burning feelings” that win the fight. Sure.

And there’s really no excuse for this laziness, just painting the Mach suit completely grey and make the visor purple instead of blue and this would’ve actually looked okay. But this lazy kit-bash is just awful. I smiled when even Gold Drive was like “This makes no sense!” because it’s true.

Oh well, Drive’s over soon, but I do want to see Shinnosuke and Heart finally duke it out. I hope they do find a way to reunite the Roidmudes and give them a chance to live among humans.

IXRollOutIX · 09-14-2015, 02:31 PM

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I also like how this all goes back to when Gou said that Drive was the protector and Mach was the destroyer. Mach was the one that killed off Banno for good, while Drive is the one tasked with saving the world.

I didn't even notice that. Nice catch.

HiddenElephant · 09-14-2015, 02:39 PM

And nobody mentions that Mach finally remembers that he has the power of short bursts of super-speed. Though, I rather liked this episode, even if Chaser-Mach still needs work, appearance-wise. I liked the sick joke at the end of the Banno-Mach with the Signal Axe as well.

Koh · 09-14-2015, 04:01 PM

How many Roidmudes are left anyways?

IXRollOutIX · 09-14-2015, 04:04 PM

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How many Roidmudes are left anyways?

After this episode? I'm pretty sure just Heart.

09-14-2015, 09:35 AM	#12
KyoryuGreen Sky Henshin! Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 4,779	This was an extremely great episode. I loved Mach vs Gold Drive so much, all of Gou's emotions were fantastic and this is one of the best Secondary Rider stories ever told. I loved Mach Type Chaser so much and him finishing off Banno with the Shingou Axe. I can't wait to see Drive vs Heart next week and to see how they stop this Sigma device as well. I am loving these final episodes so much right now. I am sad to see Medic go but that was a great scene just like with Chase and Brain. I love Gou so much! It had to be said again. __________________ My Sales Thread! Lower Prices!

09-14-2015, 01:17 PM	#15
MaskedRiderAsakura Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 2,569	Next time on Kamen Rider feels, more feels. Gou destroying Banno was easily one of the best scenes I've seen in a Rider show. I also like how this all goes back to when Gou said that Drive was the protector and Mach was the destroyer. Mach was the one that killed off Banno for good, while Drive is the one tasked with saving the world. __________________ Last edited by MaskedRiderAsakura; 09-14-2015 at 01:21 PM..

09-14-2015, 02:17 PM	#16
Kiwami Dai Shogun Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 7,747	Gotta hand it to the poor man’s Evel Knievel: At this point he’s a much more interesting and developed character than Shinnosuke. Looking back, the thing with his partner was rather unnecessary and irrelevant, the story arc with his dad’s murder case wasn’t that great either, it stood out only because of things like Nira and the Roidmude schemes more than anything. But Gou got a nice character arc that resulted in a satisfying finale. I still can’t stand this guy no matter how hard I try, but at least he is a character with some interest. It was a nice episode, didn’t hit me as hard as people who actually like the show I’d presume, but still some hilarious stuff. Like for example, Chase’s “remnants”. I love how they took a whole dump of electric scrap and scattered it across the set alongside rags of his clothing. That’s the Tokusatsu equivalent of the Mortal Kombat fatalities where 3 skulls, 6 ribcages and 200 bones fly out of an exploding body. Hilarious. But yeah, the new form was half-assed and super lazy as expected. It was especially bad when this form gave Gou the power boost to defeat the guy the 3 Riders couldn’t deal with as a group before. Oh of course, it’s his “burning feelings” that win the fight. Sure. And there’s really no excuse for this laziness, just painting the Mach suit completely grey and make the visor purple instead of blue and this would’ve actually looked okay. But this lazy kit-bash is just awful. I smiled when even Gold Drive was like “This makes no sense!” because it’s true. Oh well, Drive’s over soon, but I do want to see Shinnosuke and Heart finally duke it out. I hope they do find a way to reunite the Roidmudes and give them a chance to live among humans. Last edited by Kiwami; 09-14-2015 at 02:22 PM..

09-14-2015, 02:39 PM	#18
HiddenElephant Newbie Noob Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 76	And nobody mentions that Mach finally remembers that he has the power of short bursts of super-speed. Though, I rather liked this episode, even if Chaser-Mach still needs work, appearance-wise. I liked the sick joke at the end of the Banno-Mach with the Signal Axe as well. __________________ Welcome to My DeviantART Page!