[LockonStratos]

5D's starts out pretty strong but slowly goes downhill from there, which, as far as I've seen, is unique amongst the franchise, which usually start weaker and end stronger.

At least, that's what people keep telling me about Zexal and GX.

[Dr Kain]

Yeah, I felt 5Ds should have ended when Godwin was defeated. After that, the show just fell apart. At least it had an actual ending compared to that joke that was GX.

ZeXaL was just a crap series all around, although, at least I watched more than 2 episodes of it, which is more than I could tolerate of Arc V.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by LockonStratos

5D's starts out pretty strong but slowly goes downhill from there, which, as far as I've seen, is unique amongst the franchise, which usually start weaker and end stronger.

At least, that's what people keep telling me about Zexal and GX.

Blame Konami they screwed with the show to push Crow's deck.

Which rumor has it upset the guys working on it to the point that they intentionally made the rest of the show worse and worse just to spite them.

[Kiryu]

The Dark Signer arc and everything leading up to it is really all you need to watch out of 5Ds.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

Blame Konami they screwed with the show to push Crow's deck.

Which rumor has it upset the guys working on it to the point that they intentionally made the rest of the show worse and worse just to spite them.

Blackwings.
Ruined the card game. Ruined the anime.
Fuck that deck.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Blackwings.
Ruined the card game. Ruined the anime.
Fuck that deck.

Remember how all the initial Blackwing cards were obscenely powerful?

Turns out that was intentional 5D's showrunners never intended them to be an archtype just a couple of themed cards used by a minor arc character.

Then Konami saw how the cards were selling and forced them to put Crow in the spotlight which torpedoed their plans for the show.*Rua was always the intended fifth Signer and Akiza was supposed to be far more prominent in the plot*

[LockonStratos]

Eh... Blackwings, even at their prime, never really got me. Maybe it's just my low opinion of their bosses. Well, other than Armor Master, he was awesome. It's a mixed blessing that battle destruction immunity isn't as good as it used to be. Also, from what I've heard, Crow was always meant to be a major character. The popularity of Blackwings just changed whose side he'd end up on. Look at the final Earthbound God. Look at it's design. Yeah, what you're now thinking is true.

Of course, the fact Konami decided to renew support for Blackwings in the same series that they created a Dark Winged-Beast archetype based around swarming to summon Extra Deck bosses. Oh, and with a cooler aesthetic, IMNTBHO. Way to go Konami, you just jerked all the Blackwing fans' chains for nothing.

Of course, you could say similar things about the Destiny Heroes and Lunalights, but that would imply D Heroes were a real deck before. No, TeleDaD does NOT count as a D Hero deck, it's just degenerate Diamond Dude nonsense. Fortunately, Ancient Gears getting some fun new stuff is awesome as well as Cyber Angels FINALLY getting a real printing. Only took ya a decade.

Now, we all await the new shenanigans that they'll bring forth in the new series.

[Matrixbeast]

The problem with Blackwings is that they kept shoving them out. They're kinda like Heroes. If you look at them all as a whole, they're shit just because so many of the cards are just so worthless.
But when you sift through the crap, they're basically gamebreakingly strong.
Or...They were. The game has advanced far enough that they're irrelevant, but in their hayday, they were a force.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by LockonStratos

Eh... Blackwings, even at their prime, never really got me. Maybe it's just my low opinion of their bosses. Well, other than Armor Master, he was awesome. It's a mixed blessing that battle destruction immunity isn't as good as it used to be. Also, from what I've heard, Crow was always meant to be a major character. The popularity of Blackwings just changed whose side he'd end up on. Look at the final Earthbound God. Look at it's design. Yeah, what you're now thinking is true.

Of course, the fact Konami decided to renew support for Blackwings in the same series that they created a Dark Winged-Beast archetype based around swarming to summon Extra Deck bosses. Oh, and with a cooler aesthetic, IMNTBHO. Way to go Konami, you just jerked all the Blackwing fans' chains for nothing.

Of course, you could say similar things about the Destiny Heroes and Lunalights, but that would imply D Heroes were a real deck before. No, TeleDaD does NOT count as a D Hero deck, it's just degenerate Diamond Dude nonsense. Fortunately, Ancient Gears getting some fun new stuff is awesome as well as Cyber Angels FINALLY getting a real printing. Only took ya a decade.

Now, we all await the new shenanigans that they'll bring forth in the new series.

In fairness Destiny Heroes have always been vastly inferior to Elemental Heroes despite what the anime tries to tell you.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

In fairness Destiny Heroes have always been vastly inferior to Elemental Heroes despite what the anime tries to tell you.

Well, of course. They only ever had 2 useful cards, both of which were banned (Or limited. I don't remember).
The anime always tries to upsell new decks.
"Dude, your Cloudians are amazing! It's like an unstoppable strategy!"
"Woah! Those Crystal Beasts are wild! Their style is like nothing else!"
"Yo! These new Neos and Neo Spacians are amazing! Let's ditch my old shit E-Heroes to sell these new pieces of shit!"