[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

I know there are people who don't like this set of episodes, mostly because of the way Sougo acts in them but I just found them a great time.

I definitely feel like I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt. This was maybe not a good episode (I for sure wouldn't push back too hard on anyone who thought Sougo's actions were too oblivious), but I want to think the show is going somewhere with this plot. I'm totally prepared for Episode 10 to make me regret putting my faith in Sougo Tokiwa: Tyrant Intern as a storyline.

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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

Another OOO is also a design that makes me enjoy it. I think what helps is the designer in this particular case was the one who worked on the Greeed's and Yummy's, so you can definitely tell there's some influence from OOO here more than the other ones.

The only problem I have with Another OOO is that it looks a little too much like Super TaToBa to me? It's hard to find a new take on Plussed Out OOO when the movies already got there.

Otherwise, I think it's a neat suit!

[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by GrandComplete

Y?know tying the theme of ambition with Nobunaga, OOO and Kuroto Dan is one of ZI-O smartest writing decision. It so fun to see Dan chew the scenery as guest character.

It is! And, hey, Nobunaga was also an OOO character!

[cosmicrescend0]

Leveling up to Episode 9! (Just finished the OOO v-cin but can't even think of a good OOO pun, maybe next time.)

There's a lot of things about my first watch that are too fuzzy to properly recall, or things I straight up forgot. But I do remember one thing!

I despised this set of episodes from the bottom of my core.

(Unfortunately, we'll have to save why I didn't like them for next episode!)

But now that I'm re-watching, this is literally the perfect episode to follow up the last one? After witnessing Sougo as a leader, its time to place him alongside a awful leader and see what just might happen!

-Feel really bad for Geiz in this situation, if you think about this episode from his perspective? He got to see a glimpse of Sougo's (terrifying) potential as leader, and now he's join some madman's side! He's been taking this kid too lightly, and here come the consequences! At least it's now the moment he's been preparing for! But.....he got totally wiped out?! Even if the other side of this tunnel is Sougo cheerfully describing how he was planning to betray Kuroto all along, the fact that Geiz could barely land on stratch on Zi-O, much less actually kill him, is going to burn itself into the back of his skull. Looking forward to what happens next.

-Hina!!!!! Eiji!!!! ..........And Kuroto's here too i guess. Like you said, Kuroto's existence in this plot is perfect. Having our Legend Rider actually be the Another Rider is such a good move, especially with someone like Kuroto. I'm going to have to save Eiji/Hina for next episode, but can I just say? That red feather pin is killing me. I wonder Ankh and friends are still sleeping in that coffin in this revised timeline,,

[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0

Feel really bad for Geiz in this situation, if you think about this episode from his perspective?

One of the best things these last couple episodes have done is switch Geiz from some zero-tolerance bully into a tragic figure. Like, he maybe should've killed Sougo when he had the chance! Now Sougo's too powerful to defeat, and well on his way to being Oma Zi-O. Most shows would've had Geiz staunchly defend Sougo's kind nature and limitless empathy, but this one's like Well Actually...

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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0

Hina!!!!! Eiji!!!!

Was not expecting to see Hina in this story! Eiji's not too hard to believe (he'd just shown up in the prior year's Winter Movie), but Hina! Hina, who we haven't seen in, like, five years! Very cool addition to this story, even if she doesn't end up lifting a sturdy bench and breaking it over Kuroto's head.

[catwhowalks]

Bringing Kuroto back as a king replacement candidate and Another Rider is just genius. Dude can chew up the scenery like no one else.

That alone makes this two-parter fun. And as you said, it fits in with the story and Sogo's development way more of a threat than he first seems to be.

Today's English cover is brought to you by someone that has apparently never done any other Kamen Rider covers before or since. I like showcasing a variety of talents here, so I was glad to find this!

[Androzani84]

The one where Geiz gets a rank up from Knight to Baron.

Anyway, it’s time for…

Ridewatch Playlist: Buy Now for a Free Genm Watch Mix

“The medal combo is Hawk, Tiger, Hopper. The animal powered Rider is… OOO”

And this will be the first mix without the theme song from the show in there somewhere (because I don’t like it and I know you don’t either). So the representing song for TaToBa is Regret Nothing -Tighten Up-

“Blazing crimson wings. The burning OOO, Tajadol Combo”

And the song choice here is obvious: Time Judged All

“The dinosaur’s power now awakens. Rampage with the strongest power. The strongest OOO, Putotyra Combo”

And this form’s song is just as obvious: Power to Tearer

“Fighting with the power of Cell Medals, the mechanical Rider is Birth”

And the song for this guy is Reverse/Re:birth

And, for something different this time, I’m giving a song to Another OOO. Don’t expect this to be a regular thing, the only Another Riders I have songs picked out for are the ones for Ryuki, Kabuto, Kiva, Decade, Drive, Shinobi and Kikai. And I’ll start by sharing that one watch I didn’t share during the Ex-Aid mix, the third winner of the poll from that series.

“Revived by the power of Dangerous Zombie. Genm Zombie Gamer”

And the song for this form is Wish in the Dark (ironically, performed by Masamune’s actor)

And talking of the poll, here’s OOO’s candidates. No winners this time either.

Kamen Rider OOO (Gatakiriba Combo)
Kamen Rider OOO (Latorartar Combo)
Kamen Rider OOO (Sagohzo Combo)
Kamen Rider OOO (Shauta Combo)
Kamen Rider OOO (Tamashii Combo)
Kamen Rider OOO (Burakawani Combo)
Kamen Rider OOO (Super Tatoba Combo)
Kamen Rider Birth Day
Kamen Rider Proto Birth
Kamen Rider Aqua
Kamen Rider Poseidon
Kamen Rider Core

And now for the compare and contrast. Eiji is a man with no desire who gained one through becoming OOO and cutting his abusive father out of his life. KurotOh on the other hand started with an ambitious desire (to raise the dead) which becoming Another OOO made him forget about. And he dealt with his controlling father by murdering him and seizing everything he owned.

[Daikaijuman54]

They really didn't need to bring in Dan Kuroto for this, but I'm not complaining, since he is one of the greatest Kamen Rider characters of all time.

Now, I pondered how exactly I should put this, since I worry people might take me the wrong way here, but I've always interpreted Sougo's Nobunaga idolization moment as "People shouldn't be remembered only for the bad in their life." Now Sougo's image of Nobunaga is that, in a way, he brought together a war-torn country (or at least tried to), and that's the image he latches on to. I don't want to remain on this topic for too long, so I'll just leave a quote from Kamen Rider W to end this note: "Nobody's Perfect."

The appearance of Dan (The Man) Kuroto (King), demonstrates the twisted version of King Sougo admires, or the "bad" qualities of his idol, which I think is a fitting way to use this theme here. However, this is an OOO tribute, so it's a little odd why they picked a character from Ex-Aid to represent the villain, when as far as I can remember, greed was not exactly a quality for Dan. Again, I'm all for some more Godly Gamer, but it's still interesting they went this route.

Another OOO Time Stamp looking like a 2018 instead of a 2010 is a nice subversion of expectations, which probably answers my question from before, but this is where they start to break their own rules. Since Ex-Aid lost his powers, which in turn erased the Gamer Riders (Kamen Gamers if you will), meaning there shouldn't be a Genm Ridewatch. As I'm writing this, I realize this is the perfect excuse for Kuroto to fit into the story if Ex-Aid didn't happen, so maybe I'm just chasing my own tail here.

But anyway, it's great to see Hina and Eiji again (even if I didn't watch OOO until after Zi-O was already finished), meaning I should get around to that 10th Anniversary Special.

[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by catwhowalks

Bringing Kuroto back as a king replacement candidate and Another Rider is just genius. Dude can chew up the scenery like no one else.

He's really something else. This version of Kuroto is way more in the front of my mind, so I remember being a little weirded out watching Helpful CEO Dan Kuroto in the Ex-Aid/Ghost movie. It's hard to believe he wasn't always a dude who threw his back and laughed maniacally during speeches?

(I also really appreciated that Another KurotOOO still thought Zombie motifs were super cool and totally regal.)

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Originally Posted by Androzani84

And this will be the first mix without the theme song from the show in there somewhere (because I don?t like it and I know you don?t either).

Man, don't put words in my mouth! You're gonna get me in trouble! Folks really love that song!

It's not my fave (I mean, ska), but I like it okay. It's very upbeat, very exciting. I probably like it more than half of the Phase 1 theme songs, at least.

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Originally Posted by Daikaijuman54

Now, I pondered how exactly I should put this, since I worry people might take me the wrong way here, but I've always interpreted Sougo's Nobunaga idolization moment as "People shouldn't be remembered only for the bad in their life." Now Sougo's image of Nobunaga is that, in a way, he brought together a war-torn country (or at least tried to), and that's the image he latches on to. I don't want to remain on this topic for too long, so I'll just leave a quote from Kamen Rider W to end this note: "Nobody's Perfect."

I think that's okay to point out? I'm pretty sure the show is saying History Is Messy, even if Sougo isn't saying that. Sougo's a very sweet boy who is certain that you can obtain rulership through power, but then only use that power for good reasons. Geiz, who's a bit of a history buff himself, is aware that being a warlord and taking control of a territory usually means people got killed. That's the conflict in this story, so far.

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Originally Posted by Daikaijuman54

However, this is an OOO tribute, so it's a little odd why they picked a character from Ex-Aid to represent the villain, when as far as I can remember, greed was not exactly a quality for Dan. Again, I'm all for some more Godly Gamer, but it's still interesting they went this route.

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Originally Posted by Daikaijuman54

As I'm writing this, I realize this is the perfect excuse for Kuroto to fit into the story if Ex-Aid didn't happen, so maybe I'm just chasing my own tail here.

That's how I took it: that Kuroto is free to change because Ex-Aid's already been erased.

[DreamSword]

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Originally Posted by Name

The combination of both the screencap and your avatar makes for an amazing reaction. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

same

Well, I mean...

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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0

They silenced him, for they feared the truth......

Shunpei's not really a favorite of mine in any kind of way, but I appreciate his presence in Wizard and his dynamic with Haruto. (That bit where they're out grocery shopping is something I remember very clearly from Wizard, not because it's important or anything, I just enjoy them chilling together lol)

I feel like he's similar to Akari/Onari from Ghost, as while there are valid reasons to dislike them due to being rough-around-the-edges sometimes, I feel like only focusing on that is a disservice to the good moments they have later on.

The way that Haruto and Shunpei bounce off one another is always fantastic. Their dynamic is great and really helps the comedic bits of Wizard as a whole, ontop of showing how the two grow a close bond over the course of the season. The trio of Haruto/Shunpei/Rinko is probably one of my favorites in the franchise. Made Beast feel totally redundant to me.

As for Onari, well, he was just kinda there for me. I got a few laughs out of him, and never really found him annoying like alot of other viewers seem to. Not bad, but not anything super notable to me either.

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Shunpei walked so that Mei could fly.

Mei from Gaim? Haven't seen that one yet, but I look forward to her!

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Originally Posted by Daikaijuman54

Shunpei is a precious boy, who must be protected at all costs.

Seriously, his introduction to the show was legitimately one of my favorite arcs in Wizard, and you brought in both of my favorite Shunpei moments in this thread.

You get it! I agree on those being some of the best moments too. Was legit grinning ear to ear the entire time I was making those gifs, haha.

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by DreamSword

Mei from Gaim? Haven't seen that one yet, but I look forward to her!

No, Mei from Saber.