[Annuga]

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

...My entire life is a lie.

Marvel made superhero movies successful and D.C used their best heroes immediately, though SS is a complete fucking mystery to me

[Matrixbeast]

Marvel made a plan. DC made a budget.
Why make a headlining star that will probably need a 6 film contract with massive payout when you can instead hire 6 actors that everyone knows only 2 of whom will become semi-regulars?

[Sunred]

Whether they make money or get awards to me the current DCEU is sadly a failed attempt at trying to catch up to Marvel.
They should have taken their time whether Marvel makes money or not instead of rushing things.
Of course there are some miniscule things that can be salvaged from this failure but overall the DCEU feels like a house with no framework and is about to crumble any moment.

[Dr Kain]

At this point the only way WB could salvage this film series for me is have JL reveal that this Earth is actually the Justice Lords Earth.

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Originally Posted by Annuga

But that's the problem
The movies still earn the money back

Which is why I'm probably not going to bother with WW or JL. All I would be doing at this point is telling WB I don't care how much they suck, I will go see them anyway.

[Matrixbeast]

I think taking their time would've been the smartest move for DC, anyway.
Not just in terms of quality, but just, well...Timing.
If they released their solo hero flicks during the tail end of Marvel's big Avengers finale, they'd basically be a breath of fresh air.
No more cluttered films juggling 10 heroes. It'd be 1 hero, 1 villain, and only glimpses of something more. While Marvel is working new cameos in for every new hero, audiences who want something simpler would get that by having just Superman, just Batman, just Wonder Woman, etc etc.
By making all their films big multi-hero flicks, they're basically turning themselves into "Avengers but darker" for every movie.

One could argue that DC didn't want to risk the super hero film bubble bursting by waiting for Marvel to finish first, at the rate DC is going, they risk bursting that bubble just by how they make their movies...

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

I think taking their time would've been the smartest move for DC, anyway.
Not just in terms of quality, but just, well...Timing.
If they released their solo hero flicks during the tail end of Marvel's big Avengers finale, they'd basically be a breath of fresh air.
No more cluttered films juggling 10 heroes. It'd be 1 hero, 1 villain, and only glimpses of something more. While Marvel is working new cameos in for every new hero, audiences who want something simpler would get that by having just Superman, just Batman, just Wonder Woman, etc etc.
By making all their films big multi-hero flicks, they're basically turning themselves into "Avengers but darker" for every movie.

One could argue that DC didn't want to risk the super hero film bubble bursting by waiting for Marvel to finish first, at the rate DC is going, they risk bursting that bubble just by how they make their movies...

That's the thing that annoys me WB*and DC fanboys* defend the films by claiming they want to be different but they could've easily done that by just doing self contained movies that don't require seeing atleast 3 other movies to understand the plot not only would it be different but it could cushion them when people inevitably tire of Marvel's movies.

And I really hope Wonder Woman is good she's one of my favorite heroines. But it'll probably suck

[Kiryu]

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Originally Posted by Annuga

But that's the problem
The movies still earn the money back

Sad but true it didn't make back it's budget by any means, but it did earn $745.6 million dollars at the box office while it was in theatres.

BVS did similar: making $$873.3 million at the box office, at least according to Wikipedia.

[Dr Kain]

Actually, I think the way DC could have been different was have them part of the Arrowverse and the movies cover the high profile characters and then they could do big movie events during the summer after each season of each show is over.

[Yellow Ranger]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Actually, I think the way DC could have been different was have them part of the Arrowverse and the movies cover the high profile characters and then they could do big movie events during the summer after each season of each show is over.

...That's the same thing Marvel's doing with the MCU just centered around a tv show instead of a movie.

And I'd oppose it on principle because I hate Arrow

[Kiryu]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Actually, I think the way DC could have been different was have them part of the Arrowverse and the movies cover the high profile characters and then they could do big movie events during the summer after each season of each show is over.

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Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger

...That's the same thing Marvel's doing with the MCU just centered around a tv show instead of a movie.

And I'd oppose it on principle because I hate Arrow

The thing is though, they already have a pretty solid "Cinematic Universe" like experience with their TV shows.

So the idea that they wanted to do a NEW universe while keeping it separate from their TV content still baffles me.

I mean, we don't really need Affleck Batman meeting Steven Amell Arrow or anything, but just having them reference what happened in Man of Steel in news paper articles or news reels would've been a nice touch.