[ElConvoy]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

There were like 3-4 anime series last year that had incest in them, which is okay, but big time violence is not.

And how much of those were intend to be watched by little five year old kids?

I´m not trying to be snarky I´m just asking because that was the whole point about the sensors thing. They dont show as much violence on Sentai anymore compared to like jetman since the target audience for these shows completely shifted.

[Sentai]

Okay people, let's drop the whole incest conversation now.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by ElConvoy

I´m not trying to be snarky I´m just asking because that was the whole point about the sensors thing. They dont show as much violence on Sentai anymore compared to like jetman since the target audience for these shows completely shifted.

Yes, but Gaim has shown they can still have people die and get injured, which airs right after Sentai. As such, I fail to understand how that should matter.

Finally, that comment about the target audience shifting is more so telling me that the audience today just got dumber, as Sentai has always been targeting kids.

Man, the 90s was just the best in every for both the US and Japan. I mean, in the US we had Batman TAS, Gargoyles, and Animaniacs, while Sentai was in its best decade ever in Japan.

To quote the Joker, "What happened? Did your balls drop off?"

[ElConvoy]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Yes, but Gaim has shown they can still have people die and get injured, which airs right after Sentai. As such, I fail to understand how that should matter.

Finally, that comment about the target audience shifting is more so telling me that the audience today just got dumber, as Sentai has always been targeting kids.

Yes Rider airs right after Sentai but there is still a difference in its target audience. Rider is aimed at Kids that are a little bit older than the general sentai crowd. Plus there is the difference in time slots. There are things you are allowed to show at 8 am in japan that you arent allowed to show at 7:30 am.

And yes Sentai was always meant for kids but the old shows were also meant to be watched by Teenagers and adults. Those shows werent just meant for Kids. Thats why they had more violence and overall more adult material in them to keep the older demographic interested. Thats also why they aired later in the day and not in the morning.

Here in germany its pretty much the same thing. TV Channels arent allowed to show PG-13 material during the day. Channels are only allowed to show them after 6 pm. If they wanna show a movie like Transformers before that the Channels have to censor them so they can get a PG rating.

[XW1n5t0nX]

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Originally Posted by ElConvoy

Yes Rider airs right after Sentai but there is still a difference in its target audience. Rider is aimed at Kids that are a little bit older than the general sentai crowd. Plus there is the difference in time slots. There are things you are allowed to show at 8 am in japan that you arent allowed to show at 7:30 am.

And yes Sentai was always meant for kids but the old shows were also meant to be watched by Teenagers and adults. Those shows werent just meant for Kids. Thats why they had more violence and overall more adult material in them to keep the older demographic interested. Thats also why they aired later in the day and not in the morning.

Here in germany its pretty much the same thing. TV Channels arent allowed to show PG-13 material during the day. Channels are only allowed to show them after 6 pm. If they wanna show a movie like Transformers before that the Channels have to censor them so they can get a PG rating.

Convoy pretty much summed it all up and best. Sentai and Kamen Rider has always been aimed towards kids, it's just that Sentai is sold as more of a kids show. Let me put it this way, Sentai is like the original Ninja Turtles cartoon and Kamen Rider is like the first Ninja Turtles movie. Both are meant for kids, but the movie is a bit more oriented towards the older crowd.

Besides, does it really matter? Yes it is fun to see the destruction a monster causes both in terms to buildings and people, but it's not like it makes or breaks the show or the character.

[Suzu]

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Originally Posted by XW1n5t0nX

Yes it is fun to see the destruction a monster causes both in terms to buildings and people, but it's not like it makes or breaks the show or the character.

This, pretty much.

[Locke]

I dunno, I think there is a limit. Using a slightly weird example on paper, the 2005 War of the Worlds was extremely contrived, where for all the wanton destruction by the aliens, Ray was able to survive every near miss and come out on top in every scenario. It was so ridiculous, that despite the awful things happening to him, he seemed so immortal that I found his near misses hard to care for.

Likewise for sentai, we know the heroes will always win, but what matters is how they win and the conflict they overcome to get there. I have had huge frustrations at the ineffectual nature of sentai villains, from the Messiah Metaroids who despite all their build up achieved absolutely nothing to the Zangyack who were depicted as a cruel, destructive force in flashbacks but the ones the Gokaiger actually fought were always largely comic relief, and so I found it hard to enjoy the battles as there was never a tangible sense of danger to quell my disbelief. I never questioned if they'd win, it was all too easy.

[Matrixbeast]

Thinking about some of the more violent Sentai villains I've seen, they tended to be rather ineffectual. Radiguet was too insane to create a proper plan, Brajira was menacing, but he didn't seem to ever do much (While his endgame I don't recall being particularly impressed with), Tranza didn't accomplish anything, and Long banked too much on his immortality to take anything seriously.

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Originally Posted by Sentai

Okay people, let's drop the whole incest conversation now.

What's wrong with incest? Love is love~

[Guyver Spawn]

What's wrong if the villains look silly. I mean Super Sentai has some silly looking characters in the past and no bitch about that? To me, I always like how wired that the monsters look because they always look so cool and odd looking. In America, we don't get monsters that look neat and odd looking.

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn

What's wrong if the villains look silly. I mean Super Sentai has some silly looking characters in the past and no bitch about that? To me, I always like how wired that the monsters look because they always look so cool and odd looking. In America, we don't get monsters that look neat and odd looking.

Well, when you're trying to convince an audience that these are evil beings trying to destroy/conquer the planet, it's a bit more difficult when you can't take them seriously*

*I know some series do this intentionally, like Kyoryu, I'm just speaking in general