[GreenPsychoRanger]

IN Dr. Kain's defense, when he was first introduced, Kurokage called him Ornac.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger

IN Dr. Kain's defense, when he was first introduced, Kurokage called him Ornac.

No he didnt call him that. He called him Gridon. Ornac is a particular sub groups' translation of his name to try and localize the joke into English. Ornac is meant to be a play on the word Acornm which is the english translation of the word Donguri, which is where his actual name Gridon comes from.

[GreenPsychoRanger]

Well, I only had the sub episode I watched to go off of. So you can't blame me for saying what I said and trying to defend Dr. Kain.

[MaskedRiderAsakura]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Natsumi is Kivala? I don't remember that ever happening.

Yeah dude lol. How did you miss that?

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Gridon? I'm assuming you mean Ornac, so Jounouchi, right? I thought he was absolutely worthless as the show would have been the same without him. He was nothing more than a comic relief lackey who did very little to the main plot.

The whole point of Gridon's entire story arc is that he wasn't the most competent fighter of the Riders, but he doesn't have to be. He started off the series being a slimy, cowardly pest who would readily put his friends in harms way to get ahead, but then he matured, started to feel regret and take responsibility for his actions and, despite not being the best fighter of the group, still fought to protect what he loved and do what he thought was right.

Yeah, Gridon may not have been as competent as the other cast members but that just emphasizes how courageous he is. That's the whole point of "Never Give Up!"

I mean, his character arc literally reinforces the entire theme of the show. Which is more than you can say for Sid, mostly because he didn't have a character arc.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger

Well, I only had the sub episode I watched to go off of. So you can't blame me for saying what I said and trying to defend Dr. Kain.

Except for the fact that every single piece of Gridon-related merchandise is LABELED "Gridon", yeah.



Well I mean the stuff that has the romanization, at least.

[ZeoRangerV]

Heh. Good choice in picture

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

Heh. Good choice in picture

Oddly yours was the only one that gave a good shot of the box. So uh... Thanks.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Considering his actual name is Gridon he means Gridon.

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Originally Posted by Den-O

No he didnt call him that. He called him Gridon. Ornac is a particular sub groups' translation of his name to try and localize the joke into English. Ornac is meant to be a play on the word Acornm which is the english translation of the word Donguri, which is where his actual name Gridon comes from.

Well sorry, but Aesir called him Ornac, so that is what I knew him as and what I still end up calling him. Maybe I would care differently if I found him to be a worthwhile character. I mean, he wasn't horrible, but like i said, he was comic relief.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Well sorry, but Aesir called him Ornac, so that is what I knew him as and what I still end up calling him. Maybe I would care differently if I found him to be a worthwhile character. I mean, he wasn't horrible, but like i said, he was comic relief.

Yeah, but... We don't call Ryugen "Dragon Gun", and we don't call Gaim "Armor". They literally say "Gridon" when referring to... well, Gridon, when they don't call him by his given name. Or rather, "Guridon", because Japanese pronunciation. I get where you're coming from, but dude, you gotta pay attention to context.

[MaskedRiderAsakura]

To be fair, for the longest time I thought it was Ornac too.