Fourze Episode 43-"Gem-Ini Light/Shade" discussion

Matrixbeast · 07-17-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO

Well, there's a problem with your idea of Yuuki being Pisces- Gamou had Libra double check her, and he saw the potential of her becoming Gemini only. And it's not an evil clone, it's all of her negative emotions and parts that was given its own body.

That's not the point lol.
The point was: What if Yuuki was literally any other Zodiart. What if Libra looked and saw the Pisces constellation? Basically, what if Yuuki herself transformed into the monster?
Instead, we got her thrown into a wall, forced to press a switch, and because she happened to be Gemini, the Yuuki we know got to walk off and evil twin is the Zodiart.
The episode is nice and the story is fine, but they seriously wasted a lot of potential in the "KRC member is a Zodiart" concept by having the "Negative emotions" become the zodiart, and not the actual member.

KamenRiderOOO · 07-17-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

That's not the point lol.
The point was: What if Yuuki was literally any other Zodiart. What if Libra looked and saw the Pisces constellation? Basically, what if Yuuki herself transformed into the monster?
Instead, we got her thrown into a wall, forced to press a switch, and because she happened to be Gemini, the Yuuki we know got to walk off and evil twin is the Zodiart.
The episode is nice and the story is fine, but they seriously wasted a lot of potential in the "KRC member is a Zodiart" concept by having the "Negative emotions" become the zodiart, and not the actual member.

Well, we still have Pisces left. Anybody know if any of the other KRC members could fit Pisces?

What would be an amazing twist in my opinion is if next episode that Gamou points out who in the KRC can become Pisces, and the only way he'll let Yuuki live is if that person allows themselves to be Pisces. But hey, that's just my idea.

Galvantula · 07-17-2012, 12:29 PM

Out of all the member Tomoko seems the lost likely to be Pisces. When you think about it, she does have grace, is fond of things that are hidden from people normally I.E Kamen Riders, somewhat shy, and possesses a curiously mystical side to her. Also she feels that Yuki is a kindred spirit and if it meant saving her means being a Horoscope then she'd do it.

Den-O · 07-17-2012, 07:26 PM

Finally got to sit down and watch this one. I gotta say that I hate Gemini. The story behind it is great but that annoying voice and character just kill me. I'm glad it's not technically Yuki that's going crazy and evil but at the same time it seems like a cop out to make one of the KRC members a Horoscope only for it to be their "dark half".

Kiryu · 07-18-2012, 12:36 AM

Am I the only one who's getting major flashbacks to Persona 3 and 4 from this episode?

TokuChris · 07-18-2012, 01:21 AM

So Yuuki is kind of a bitch.

GeneralTekno · 07-18-2012, 02:02 AM

The only thing that's sorta a shame is that we know how this arc's gonna resolve itself, given Yuuki's in the movie.

Unless they pull a fast one on us and have it so that they need to redeem her as one of the endgame goals for the series.

Matrixbeast · 07-18-2012, 09:43 AM

The biggest twist I can think of is that the copy does stay and Yuuki vanishes.
But even then, Fourze and Meteor would take out Gemini a few episodes later and Yuuki would return, a-ok.

Galvantula · 07-18-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiryu

Am I the only one who's getting major flashbacks to Persona 3 and 4 from this episode?

That's what I was thinking too. Yuki's darker emotions do hint she may have deeper issues that we first thought.I wonder if that's changed anyone's opinions of the character as we've seen what Dark Yuki is capable of.

Personally I don't think Gemini's making it past 44 myself, but I do wonder if it'll be brought up that she's is technically a Horoscope again during the last five episodes. I.E when the endgame comes up all former members are forcibly turned into their monster forms.

@GeneralTekno,Matrixbeast: That might happen too. The little we saw of her during the promos for Everyone, Space is her showed her looking not as chipper.

GeneralTekno · 07-18-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Galvantula

@GeneralTekno,Matrixbeast: That might happen too. The little we saw of her during the promos for Everyone, Space is her showed her looking not as chipper.

Except that Dark Yuuki is pretty darn chipper. She's just evil and chipper.

Unless both halves end up surviving after all.... the evil half seems to have taken the "chipper" aspects, it seems.

07-17-2012, 11:34 AM	#22
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast That's not the point lol. The point was: What if Yuuki was literally any other Zodiart. What if Libra looked and saw the Pisces constellation? Basically, what if Yuuki herself transformed into the monster? Instead, we got her thrown into a wall, forced to press a switch, and because she happened to be Gemini, the Yuuki we know got to walk off and evil twin is the Zodiart. The episode is nice and the story is fine, but they seriously wasted a lot of potential in the "KRC member is a Zodiart" concept by having the "Negative emotions" become the zodiart, and not the actual member. Well, we still have Pisces left. Anybody know if any of the other KRC members could fit Pisces? What would be an amazing twist in my opinion is if next episode that Gamou points out who in the KRC can become Pisces, and the only way he'll let Yuuki live is if that person allows themselves to be Pisces. But hey, that's just my idea. __________________ My signature disappeared. Help. Last edited by KamenRiderOOO; 07-17-2012 at 11:36 AM..

07-17-2012, 12:29 PM	#23
Galvantula Neon Blade Outlaw Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Californa Posts: 2,725	Out of all the member Tomoko seems the lost likely to be Pisces. When you think about it, she does have grace, is fond of things that are hidden from people normally I.E Kamen Riders, somewhat shy, and possesses a curiously mystical side to her. Also she feels that Yuki is a kindred spirit and if it meant saving her means being a Horoscope then she'd do it. __________________ 3DS F.Code: 2363 6720 7569 Quote: Originally Posted by Mmicb0b inb4 his final form is just MetalCluster Hopper wearing all the belts

07-17-2012, 07:26 PM	#24
Den-O Admin AKA Zordon Content Director @DenO_TokuNation Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 16,328	Finally got to sit down and watch this one. I gotta say that I hate Gemini. The story behind it is great but that annoying voice and character just kill me. I'm glad it's not technically Yuki that's going crazy and evil but at the same time it seems like a cop out to make one of the KRC members a Horoscope only for it to be their "dark half". __________________

07-18-2012, 12:36 AM	#25
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07-18-2012, 01:21 AM	#26
TokuChris Webmaster, Administrator @TokuChris Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,697	So Yuuki is kind of a bitch. __________________ [ "Like" us on Facebook!]\| [@TokuNation on Instagram] \| @TokuNation on Twitter! ]