[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

Wellll that could have something to do with the fact that Dragon Knight was awful and a far cry from how awesome the source material, Ryuki, is.

From what I read, the Japanese adored it and got all the Ryuki actors back to dub it, you just seem to have a real hatred for adaptations.

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

And knowing how Locke tried out shows, he'd likely watch episode one of Ryuki and say it wasn't good and drop it.
/Yes. I'm still sore about how you tried Geki.

I only did that as a comparative piece but it is true that the Dragon Knight characters and stories have such a warm place in my heart, I don't think I would like Ryuki, even if Dragon Knight from reading interviews and so on is a completely unique show.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Locke

From what I read, the Japanese adored it and got all the Ryuki actors back to dub it, you just seem to have a real hatred for adaptations.



I only did that as a comparative piece but it is true that the Dragon Knight characters and stories have such a warm place in my heart, I don't think I would like Ryuki, even if Dragon Knight from reading interviews and so on is a completely unique show.

They always get the Japanese actors to dub the re-importations. Dragon Knight, Mystic Force, SPD, Samurai. Toei always gets the actors from the original version of the show to dub over the re-imported version. It's not because it's wildly popular. They just do it. They turn out to be pretty good bu re-adaptations like that rarely if ever enjoy the same kind of ratings the original show did in the same market.

And yes, in general I don't care for adaptations. I always tend to like the original version of something. And after years of being blind to Power Rangers being an adaptation when I was a kid, I grew up and found out just how poor it is in comparison to it's source.

Similarly Dragon Knight had flat boring characters, tried to work in footage from 3 different versions of Ryuki continuity (2 movies and the show) using riders who didn't all exist in the same continuity at the same time, tried to fake out character deaths (Advent Void? Really?) and didn't really have an ending so much as it just finished.

I feel like I have legitimate reasons to dislike it other than my adaptation bias

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Den-O

They always get the Japanese actors to dub the re-importations. Dragon Knight, Mystic Force, SPD, Samurai. Toei always gets the actors from the original version of the show to dub over the re-imported version. It's not because it's wildly popular. They just do it. They turn out to be pretty good bu re-adaptations like that rarely if ever enjoy the same kind of ratings the original show did in the same market.

And yes, in general I don't care for adaptations. I always tend to like the original version of something. And after years of being blind to Power Rangers being an adaptation when I was a kid, I grew up and found out just how poor it is in comparison to it's source.

Similarly Dragon Knight had flat boring characters, tried to work in footage from 3 different versions of Ryuki continuity (2 movies and the show) using riders who didn't all exist in the same continuity at the same time, tried to fake out character deaths (Advent Void? Really?) and didn't really have an ending so much as it just finished.

I feel like I have legitimate reasons to dislike it other than my adaptation bias

Oh from what I've read around it looked like the Japanese really liked Dragon Knight, as they have a lot of Power Rangers adaptations. It normally seems the elitists like the adaptations less than the original makers of the shows do.

Your opinion bro, but that ain't a fact, you may have found it poor but I've gone back and rewatched the Japanese versions of some of my favourite Power Rangers shows and I haven't liked them better.

I liked the Dragon Knight characters and ending and I think that given the heavy American censorship they still managed to make a mature show, that got around a lot of censorship just by calling things by different names.

Plus the continuity of a different show means very little to the continuity of the other, from what I've read Ryuki and Dragon Knight have very few similarities, I just think you're elitist.

[Matrixbeast]

The problem with the issues with continuity is that Ryuki has 3. And some characters (Like Camo, Siren, and Onyx) are movie only characters in Ryuki.

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Oh from what I've read around it looked like the Japanese really liked Dragon Knight, as they have a lot of Power Rangers adaptations. It normally seems the elitists like the adaptations less than the original makers of the shows do.

Your opinion bro, but that ain't a fact, you may have found it poor but I've gone back and rewatched the Japanese versions of some of my favourite Power Rangers shows and I haven't liked them better.

I liked the Dragon Knight characters and ending and I think that given the heavy American censorship they still managed to make a mature show, that got around a lot of censorship just by calling things by different names.

Plus the continuity of a different show means very little to the continuity of the other, from what I've read Ryuki and Dragon Knight have very few similarities, I just think you're elitist.

You say Japanese version as though it's not the original. That's being elitist bro. I'm talking about disliking the adaptation of something I hold dear. Like how people don't always like the movie adaptation of their favorite book, it pisses them off to see how poorly it was handled. For me it's US toku adaptations because they don't ever hold a candle to their source. And I prefer to say that I have taste

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

The problem with the issues with continuity is that Ryuki has 3. And some characters (Like Camo, Siren, and Onyx) are movie only characters in Ryuki.

Exactly my problem. Ryuga (Onyx) and Femme (Siren) only appeared in one Ryuki movie so working them in with what little footage existed was silly. Verde (Camo) is only in the 13 Riders TV Special, and that is incredibly brief. Again there's almost no footage there to work with. They only appeared in those films and had nothing to do with the footage or plot of the normal Ryuki TV series. So bringing the series over as Dragon Knight and trying to work all of these briefly used characters into a shared plot that originally wasn't there made that show a total train wreck.

[Battlizer]

Got up to episode 19 of Den-O. Still fun so far. I figured from his first appearance that Ryuutaros would be my least favorite of the good Imagin, but everytime time he does that stupid group dance routine is funny as hell.

Second Kamen Rider seems cool so far. I like that Deneb has his own brand of candy for some reason.

[guncannon109]

You know, I just noticed something. Where the hell were Yuusuke and Natsumi in Super Hero Taisen?

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by guncannon109

You know, I just noticed something. Where the hell were Yuusuke and Natsumi in Super Hero Taisen?

You know. I don't know that it ever crossed my mind til now. Where the hell were they?

[Switchblade]

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Originally Posted by guncannon109

You know, I just noticed something. Where the hell were Yuusuke and Natsumi in Super Hero Taisen?

Kuuga was in there, but since the AU Rider idea seems to have been quietly dropped, I doubt Toei really wanted to reopen that can of worms. With Natsumi they probably couldn't get the actress. If they had, she likely would've filled Hina's role.

[guncannon109]

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Kuuga was in there, but since the AU Rider idea seems to have been quietly dropped, I doubt Toei really wanted to reopen that can of worms. With Natsumi they probably couldn't get the actress. If they had, she likely would've filled Hina's role.

Ah, okay that makes sense. Also looking at your avatar makes me realize something else. Urataros must have a thing for rangers.