Super Samurai Episode 16 - "Fight Fire with Fire" Discussion

ZeoRangerV · 11-12-2012, 08:44 AM

I'm....indifferent to this episode. It was a good watch and I thought all the characters were on top form (like Kick said, the emotion came from the fact that Jayden was leaving rather than the fact he'd be lying to them the whole time) but on the other hand, Jayden's reasons for leaving were utterly ridiculous.

It made sense in Shinkenger because of the far different relationship between Kaoru and Takeru and the fact her servants were much more aloof and authoritative. But here the only real reason Jayden is leaving is because he's too proud. It just doesn't work.

TokuChris · 11-12-2012, 08:53 PM

The writers were trying to express that Jayden was leaving because the team had grown to care for him and would be more willing to rush to his aid than to Lauren's aid. And that can't happen ("mistakes are bound to happen" - Jayden) because Lauren has mastered the sealing power to defeat Xandred, she has to be kept alive long enough to seal away Xandred for good.

Jayden's presence would only cause the team to be divided if he was in trouble as they'd rush to protect him ... but Lauren is the one they need to protect.

However the writers at the very end made it more of a "I am Jayden. I must go. Because I must go." Keeping true to his stick-up-the-rear character-type, but really defeated the whole "THE REASON I AM LEAVING IS SO YOU WON'T PROTECT ME OVER MY SISTER" idea.

raz · 11-12-2012, 11:29 PM

Still sounds like a dumb reason in hindsight.

TokuChris · 11-13-2012, 12:05 AM

Dumb reason or not it was entirely possible to write it in a way that worked. I do not know how or why they failed to deliver.

vincheng2k5 · 11-22-2012, 10:41 AM

This is one of my biggest issues with PR Samurai. It's not that it's too similar or too different from its sentai counterpart. The show never comes together emotionally for me, and there's no excuse this year because the writers had the entire sentai season played out before they even started the first episode translation...I mean, "script."

Every season before this had to go into the overall season arc blind and work with whatever the sentai gave them a few weeks ahead of time. PR Samurai had a WHOLE YEAR, and then some thanks to Nick's airing schedule.

11-12-2012, 08:44 AM	#31
ZeoRangerV Kawaii 5-0 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cardiff, United Kingdom Posts: 12,851	I'm....indifferent to this episode. It was a good watch and I thought all the characters were on top form (like Kick said, the emotion came from the fact that Jayden was leaving rather than the fact he'd be lying to them the whole time) but on the other hand, Jayden's reasons for leaving were utterly ridiculous. It made sense in Shinkenger because of the far different relationship between Kaoru and Takeru and the fact her servants were much more aloof and authoritative. But here the only real reason Jayden is leaving is because he's too proud. It just doesn't work. __________________ My Shiny Toy Robots: Toku, Anime & Toy Reviews

11-12-2012, 08:53 PM	#32
TokuChris Webmaster, Administrator @TokuChris Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,697	The writers were trying to express that Jayden was leaving because the team had grown to care for him and would be more willing to rush to his aid than to Lauren's aid. And that can't happen ("mistakes are bound to happen" - Jayden) because Lauren has mastered the sealing power to defeat Xandred, she has to be kept alive long enough to seal away Xandred for good. Jayden's presence would only cause the team to be divided if he was in trouble as they'd rush to protect him ... but Lauren is the one they need to protect. However the writers at the very end made it more of a "I am Jayden. I must go. Because I must go." Keeping true to his stick-up-the-rear character-type, but really defeated the whole "THE REASON I AM LEAVING IS SO YOU WON'T PROTECT ME OVER MY SISTER" idea. __________________ [ "Like" us on Facebook!]\| [@TokuNation on Instagram] \| @TokuNation on Twitter! ]

11-12-2012, 11:29 PM	#33
raz @razzle1337 Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 729	Still sounds like a dumb reason in hindsight. __________________ Razzle's Dazzles Power Rangers Toy Blog

11-13-2012, 12:05 AM	#34
TokuChris Webmaster, Administrator @TokuChris Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,697	Dumb reason or not it was entirely possible to write it in a way that worked. I do not know how or why they failed to deliver. __________________ [ "Like" us on Facebook!]\| [@TokuNation on Instagram] \| @TokuNation on Twitter! ]

11-22-2012, 10:41 AM	#35
vincheng2k5 New Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 86	This is one of my biggest issues with PR Samurai. It's not that it's too similar or too different from its sentai counterpart. The show never comes together emotionally for me, and there's no excuse this year because the writers had the entire sentai season played out before they even started the first episode translation...I mean, "script." Every season before this had to go into the overall season arc blind and work with whatever the sentai gave them a few weeks ahead of time. PR Samurai had a WHOLE YEAR, and then some thanks to Nick's airing schedule. __________________ www.facebook.com/StripesComics