[HenshinTension]

Overall it was a good episode with some really nice scenes. I loved the comedic moment when the Dice Saber pulled up a one .

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Originally Posted by bluesparrow

I liked the solution to the Phoenix problem, but it was fairly cold-blooded a move by Haruto.

I agree that the way Haruto ended up beating Phoenix came off as a little dark and cold-blooded. I think it would've been a bit more merciful had Haruto let Nitou eat Phoenix's mana. Oh well...that just means Phoenix will come back at some point more powerful than ever (not the greatest plan, Haruto).

[yami4ct]

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Originally Posted by xSkullheartx

I'm thinking that or Wiseman,just cause we haven't seen Wiseman except for in his Phantom form.

I'm getting the feeling more and more that White Wizard and Wiseman are related. They've dropped so many hints to it. Whether their the same person, phantom and wizard, or something else remains to be seen. Who knows, maybe Kizaki will turn out to be both the White Wizard and Wiseman.

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Originally Posted by HenshinTension

I agree that the way Haruto ended up beating Phoenix came off as a little dark and cold-blooded. I think it would've been a bit more merciful had Haruto let Nitou eat Phoenix's mana. Oh well...that just means Phoenix will come back at some point more powerful than ever (not the greatest plan, Haruto).

It came off really cold-hearted to me. Haruto was really dark about it. He didn't just want phoenix gone, he wanted him to suffer as much as possible. Phoenix really pushed Haruto too far. Maybe this darkness is the beginning of some Dragon form consequence. Could the dragon be starting to consume Haruto's mind?

[NGW]

That was a great way to deal with Phoenix...semi-permanently. Sad to see him go, he was easily one of the top 3 characters on the show (Sora and Nitou being the other two).

All Dragon was kinda disappointing tbqh. Hopefully Infinity Style makes up for it. Dragon Timer itself is at least cool.

And yeah, there is definitely more to Kizaki than we've seen, odds are good he is Wiseman or the White Wizard...or both, though I dislike the Wiseman=White Wizard theory, even if it is likely true.

Haruto really went all out against Phoenix, I mean damn. Wanting him to suffer eternally, using his immortality against him and all that. That was hardcore and kinda badass haha, but really freaking cold. Glad to see some change in his character like that.

Also, what was with all the form changes in that fight, whatever happened to having to manage his use of mana? They decide to drop that already? Waiting for it to be convenient again to use as a way to build drama?

[Captain Marvelous]

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Also, what was with all the form changes in that fight, whatever happened to having to manage his use of mana? They decide to drop that already? Waiting for it to be convenient again to use as a way to build drama?

It's just like Naruto and Chakra. In the beginning every Ninja has to manage his or her supply of Chakra when casting ninja arts, but later on everybody's got almost unlimited supply of it in the big fights. I think it's too hard to have a prolonged battle without ditching the concept altogether.


Man I am going to miss Phoenix a lot. That's one heck of a fight. Heck the buildup to that last fight alone was worth the price of admission. I do think the solution of solving Phoenix's immortality was pretty cold hearted, but if I was in Haruto's shoes I would've done the same because there's just no other way to deal with such a ruthless and powerful foe. Phoenix really forced Haruto's hand at the end because he wasn't going to let Haruto go until one of them is gone.

[KRX]

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Originally Posted by Captain Marvelous

It's just like Naruto and Chakra. In the beginning every Ninja has to manage his or her supply of Chakra when casting ninja arts, but later on everybody's got almost unlimited supply of it in the big fights. I think it's too hard to have a prolonged battle without ditching the concept altogether.


Man I am going to miss Phoenix a lot. That's one heck of a fight. Heck the buildup to that last fight alone was worth the price of admission. I do think the solution of solving Phoenix's immortality was pretty cold hearted, but if I was in Haruto's shoes I would've done the same because there's just no other way to deal with such a ruthless and powerful foe. Phoenix really forced Haruto's hand at the end because he wasn't going to let Haruto go until one of them is gone.

Why didn't he just toss Phoenix into a black hole? I mean, he's a wizard- he's fully capable of pulling it off and surviving. Furthermore, the chances of Phoenix coming back stronger than before would be very low.

[Matrixbeast]

Rule of teleportation applies here, even if he's not teleporting Phoenix. He'd have to know where a Black Hole is in the first place.

[KRX]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Rule of teleportation applies here, even if he's not teleporting Phoenix. He'd have to know where a Black Hole is in the first place.

That's why we have Google.

In fact, I just found one relatively close to Earth.

[Matrixbeast]

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That's why we have Google.

In fact, I just found one relatively close to Earth.

Heat of the moment.
Easier to hit him towards the sun than to risk missing the black hole.
Black hole is too far for him to kick him towards, risking Phoenix recovering fast enough to fly back.

Pick your reasoning

[Den-O]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Rule of teleportation applies here, even if he's not teleporting Phoenix. He'd have to know where a Black Hole is in the first place.

Why even apply theoretical teleportation rules to this when they didn't even use real logic in this episode? He threw Phoenix into the sun. From Earth's surface. In like a matter of seconds. That's over 92,000,000 miles. That alone isn't possible unless All Dragon Forms' attacks move objects at the speed of light. And even then light takes about 8 minutes to reach Earth from the sun. I think even trying to use teleportation logic is foolhardy with this one. It's best just to accept that this hapened and nothing else did and remain oblivious

[Matrixbeast]

So yeah. Guess All Dragon is pretty damn strong to send Phoenix that far that fast.