Gaim Episode 7: "Great Ball Watermelon, Big Bang!" Discussion

algo448 · 11-27-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainchild

I'm totally cool with him not being a one-track character, it's just that it seems like there's no distinction between when he's on one of the two very obvious poles he has. I totally like him when he's creepy and psychotic, and it works for him well. I start to have a problem when he becomes uncharacteristically childish. His address to the viewers of Beat Rider Hotline was good psychopathy; him stopping in the middle of the fight to clap his hands at the giant watermelon was completely out of character for an ex-soldier that complains about the beat rider game being kiddy.
Not only that, but in those moments that he's overly childish, he's a ridiculous caricature. I appreciate that he's supposed to have a silly and a psychotic side but they just seem to be thrown together too haphazardly for him to be at all believable. I know, it's a show about a fruity-armor war, but I just can't bring myself to appreciate his mood swings when he varies without any reason. The potential is all there, but the execution is a little weak, which is the reason I'd rather him get written off as a one-off character than to come back. That, and the ending they gave him here was awful. A formidable, indestructible fighter warded off by upbeat music and a cheap joke about pies. It's impossible for me to take him seriously when scenes like that happen.

I'm with you, half of the time he is the most dangeous and psychotic Rider in the game, and then he goes all silly and comedic, feeling like a parody of himself.

It's not working.

Other than that I loved the episode, it was great to see more of Yggdrasil.

Switchblade · 11-27-2013, 03:02 PM

Okay, I liked the stuff with Yggdrasil and the revelation about the annoying DJ. So the Beat Riders are basically just lab monkeys who are testing out the Lock Seeds without realizing it? That's a cool plot hook. I like that.

I'm also digging Bravo as a character. He has a good motivation, a badass design, and he's definitely shaking up the story.

With all that said, Gaim continues to be the show that does a lot of really cool stuff, then drops something incredibly stupid right in the middle that takes me out of it. Now, I like the Watermelon Power Dizer. It looks really cool and it's pretty awesome in a fight... right up to the moment where it turns into a round melon and starts rolling down the street. That was phenomenally stupid. And then Bravo suddenly has to power down and run off in silly, sped-up cartoon fashion because his pies are done. Great anti-climax there, Gaim.

Still liking the show a lot, but not quite able to love it.

Edit: one last side note: having just watched the most recent Garo movie it is very, very weird to see Zangetsu just standing around acting normal.

Paladin · 11-27-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Watermelon Arms especially was just awesome. But I'm kinda confused, why didn't it do that for Zangetsu?

Zangetsu has never used Watermelon Arms (as far as we know). His LockSeed is a different flavor of Melon (I'd guess honeydew based on Zangetsu's coloring).

KamenRiderOOO · 11-27-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Zangetsu has never used Watermelon Arms (as far as we know). His LockSeed is a different flavor of Melon (I'd guess honeydew based on Zangetsu's coloring).

Yup, he had "Melon Arms" compared to Gaim's "Watermelon Arms". It was apparent that he would've used it had Mitsuzane had not taken it from him.

SPLIT LIP · 11-27-2013, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Zangetsu has never used Watermelon Arms (as far as we know). His LockSeed is a different flavor of Melon (I'd guess honeydew based on Zangetsu's coloring).

I like how Zangetsu had it, probably because it's also a type of melon. Like an upgrade.

I wonder how many new locks Micchy's gonna bum off his bro for Gaim before Zangetsu gets wise?

Cannot wait for Mango arms. Looks so hardcore. Doesn't even look like a fruit, it just looks awesome.

Also I agree with Kickback, seeing for real that Yggdrasil set up the whole beat rider thing is really twisted. Using oblivious children to basically test weapons if that where they're going.

uchihabro77 · 11-27-2013, 06:23 PM

Suika arms is awesome! Bravo is just so weird and creepy he is awesome

Oh and Mango next week? Time to celebrate by going to get a mango smoothie!

ComicGuy89 · 11-27-2013, 09:59 PM

So DJ Sagara is more than just comic relief and is actually really sinister. That's actually pretty cool.

Switchblade · 11-27-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ComicGuy89

So DJ Sagara is more than just comic relief and is actually really sinister. That's actually pretty cool.

Yep. I now have two reasons I want to punch him in the face.

Blade Raider · 11-27-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

Yep. I now have two reasons I want to punch him in the face.

OptionZero · 11-27-2013, 11:24 PM

That gif is gonna find its way all over the internet as the new "You Mad?" tag

11-27-2013, 12:08 PM	#31
algo448 Amateur Procrastinator Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Colombia Posts: 7,491	Quote: Originally Posted by Brainchild I'm totally cool with him not being a one-track character, it's just that it seems like there's no distinction between when he's on one of the two very obvious poles he has. I totally like him when he's creepy and psychotic, and it works for him well. I start to have a problem when he becomes uncharacteristically childish. His address to the viewers of Beat Rider Hotline was good psychopathy; him stopping in the middle of the fight to clap his hands at the giant watermelon was completely out of character for an ex-soldier that complains about the beat rider game being kiddy. Not only that, but in those moments that he's overly childish, he's a ridiculous caricature. I appreciate that he's supposed to have a silly and a psychotic side but they just seem to be thrown together too haphazardly for him to be at all believable. I know, it's a show about a fruity-armor war, but I just can't bring myself to appreciate his mood swings when he varies without any reason. The potential is all there, but the execution is a little weak, which is the reason I'd rather him get written off as a one-off character than to come back. That, and the ending they gave him here was awful. A formidable, indestructible fighter warded off by upbeat music and a cheap joke about pies. It's impossible for me to take him seriously when scenes like that happen. I'm with you, half of the time he is the most dangeous and psychotic Rider in the game, and then he goes all silly and comedic, feeling like a parody of himself. It's not working. Other than that I loved the episode, it was great to see more of Yggdrasil. __________________ *DA // Tumblr // Youtube*

11-27-2013, 03:02 PM	#32
Switchblade Echoing Oni Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 10,688	Okay, I liked the stuff with Yggdrasil and the revelation about the annoying DJ. So the Beat Riders are basically just lab monkeys who are testing out the Lock Seeds without realizing it? That's a cool plot hook. I like that. I'm also digging Bravo as a character. He has a good motivation, a badass design, and he's definitely shaking up the story. With all that said, Gaim continues to be the show that does a lot of really cool stuff, then drops something incredibly stupid right in the middle that takes me out of it. Now, I like the Watermelon Power Dizer. It looks really cool and it's pretty awesome in a fight... right up to the moment where it turns into a round melon and starts rolling down the street. That was phenomenally stupid. And then Bravo suddenly has to power down and run off in silly, sped-up cartoon fashion because his pies are done. Great anti-climax there, Gaim. Still liking the show a lot, but not quite able to love it. Edit: one last side note: having just watched the most recent Garo movie it is very, very weird to see Zangetsu just standing around acting normal. Last edited by Switchblade; 11-27-2013 at 03:12 PM..

11-27-2013, 03:08 PM	#33
Paladin Have Zord, Will Travel Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: MI Posts: 5,956	Quote: Originally Posted by Locke Watermelon Arms especially was just awesome. But I'm kinda confused, why didn't it do that for Zangetsu? Zangetsu has never used Watermelon Arms (as far as we know). His LockSeed is a different flavor of Melon (I'd guess honeydew based on Zangetsu's coloring). __________________ TWITTER: Paladin4221 Check out my SALES THREAD Please! Every Little Bit Helps!

11-27-2013, 03:11 PM	#34
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	Quote: Originally Posted by Paladin Zangetsu has never used Watermelon Arms (as far as we know). His LockSeed is a different flavor of Melon (I'd guess honeydew based on Zangetsu's coloring). Yup, he had "Melon Arms" compared to Gaim's "Watermelon Arms". It was apparent that he would've used it had Mitsuzane had not taken it from him. __________________ My signature disappeared. Help.

11-27-2013, 03:15 PM	#35
SPLIT LIP I'm an agile cat. Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,032	Quote: Originally Posted by Paladin Zangetsu has never used Watermelon Arms (as far as we know). His LockSeed is a different flavor of Melon (I'd guess honeydew based on Zangetsu's coloring). I like how Zangetsu had it, probably because it's also a type of melon. Like an upgrade. I wonder how many new locks Micchy's gonna bum off his bro for Gaim before Zangetsu gets wise? Cannot wait for Mango arms. Looks so hardcore. Doesn't even look like a fruit, it just looks awesome. Also I agree with Kickback, seeing for real that Yggdrasil set up the whole beat rider thing is really twisted. Using oblivious children to basically test weapons if that where they're going. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 11-27-2013 at 03:17 PM..