Showa LockSeed Set

KamenRiderOOO · 09-18-2014, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SideswipePrime

That's dumb, they should have been DX.

The cost of engineering that many locks with springs, button activation and LEDs? Not cheap lol

2ndSndWve · 09-18-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO

The cost of engineering that many locks with springs, button activation and LEDs? Not cheap lol

Yeah, but it's Bandai PREMIUM. We already have gashapon/candy toy locks for some of these, but DX versions would make it worthwhile.

Phantom Stranger · 09-18-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Talisman

But we still got three for OOO and two, almost three, for Wizard.

True. But Modern riders have a bit more going for them in their forms than "Has gun" and "Has stronger sword" They probably could do something with Bio is terms of adding some liquid sound effects in addition to the Bio Blade. But I have no clue what they would do for Robo.

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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO

The cost of engineering that many locks with springs, button activation and LEDs? Not cheap lol

This. If albeit unfortunate, the average DX lockseed is $20 and that's on a mass produced level. I doubt many would really want to pay 360+ USD for this set.

KamenRiderOOO · 09-18-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndSndWve

Yeah, but it's Bandai PREMIUM. We already have gashapon/candy toy locks for some of these, but DX versions would make it worthwhile.

You gotta remember that PREMIUM BANDAI also means MADE TO ORDER.

Sure they have the resources to make them, but what's the point in making a bunch of DX lock seeds that not everyone would buy? It's a lot more beneficial for them to produce Gashapons because of their composition.

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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger

True. But Modern riders have a bit more going for them in their forms than "Has gun" and "Has stronger sword" They probably could do something with Bio is terms of adding some liquid sound effects in addition to the Bio Blade. But I have no clue what they would do for Robo.

That, and for OOO, I feel that the argument of him having 3 Locks is cause of the popularity of his TaJaDor Combo. I mean, they released the Ankh Lock Seed before it, so it was bound to happen that his popular Red Combo (Which was also the last combo he used in his show's run) would be made. And I'm glad they did make it! (hugs his LED TaJaDor Lock Seed)

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This. If albeit unfortunate, the average DX lockseed is $20 and that's on a mass produced level. I doubt many would really want to pay 360+ USD for this set.

The actual retail for DX Lock Seeds is around 1600-1800, which is at the last time I checked the exchange rate $15-17. So more like a $276-311 value before shipping. Better off making a Gashapon which people only really pay 400-500 yen each, bar the rare 1/50 LED gashapon versions which sell from anywhere from 1200-2000yen on Mandarake

Phantom Stranger · 09-18-2014, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO

The actual retail for DX Lock Seeds is around 1600-1800, which is at the last time I checked the exchange rate $15-17. So more like a $276-311 value before shipping. Better off making a Gashapon which people only really pay 400-500 yen each, bar the rare 1/50 LED gashapon versions which sell from anywhere from 1200-2000yen on Mandarake

So either way it's still quite the increase. Speaking of LED, do we know if these have them? Would actually be more enticing if they all lit up, especially since some of these Riders only had candy versions. I really want an RX that lights up.

KamenRiderOOO · 09-18-2014, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger

So either way it's still quite the increase. Speaking of LED, do we know if these have them? Would actually be more enticing if they all lit up, especially since some of these Riders only had candy versions. I really want an RX that lights up.

I'd say wait a bit til the Oren Donguri and Dark Orange/Lemon set get released to see if there's LEDs, cause their also Gashapon style.

Several people have managed to make their Gashapons LED versions by connecting the LEDs from Wizard Rings to the circuit boards for Lock Seeds

PkmnMstr · 09-18-2014, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndSndWve

Yeah, but it's Bandai PREMIUM. We already have gashapon/candy toy locks for some of these, but DX versions would make it worthwhile.

Literally only Rider1 and Black RX. 2 out of 15. Not that many.

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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger

So either way it's still quite the increase. Speaking of LED, do we know if these have them? Would actually be more enticing if they all lit up, especially since some of these Riders only had candy versions. I really want an RX that lights up.

I don't think so. Premium usually sees a price increase to begin with.

I wouldn't count on LEDs. If they lit up, then this price would be pretty sweet.

I'm getting it either way.

Phantom Stranger · 09-18-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO

I'd say wait a bit til the Oren Donguri and Dark Orange/Lemon set get released to see if there's LEDs, cause their also Gashapon style.

Several people have managed to make their Gashapons LED versions by connecting the LEDs from Wizard Rings to the circuit boards for Lock Seeds

Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Although it does seem like something that would have been mentioned.

Even if I know what I'm doing, I'd still rather not open up a lockseed. I'm funny about modifications and things like that.

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Originally Posted by PkmnMstr

I wouldn't count on LEDs. If they lit up, then this price would be pretty sweet.

I'm getting it either way.

I'm just not gonna go through the trouble of getting another RX if the only thing it has going for it is a louder speaker and some translucent bits. I still will go after a Shin, however.

uchihabro77 · 09-18-2014, 11:57 AM

Eh..... Im done with Gaim unless its DX anyway, and I am not a fan of Showa anyway. So these are a pass just as the Dark Jinba set.

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Originally Posted by Talisman

But we still got three for OOO and two, almost three, for Wizard.

Technically four for OOO if you count Ankh, Den-O got four if you add in Momo and New Den-O, then Wizard and Fourze both have three with their secondary riders. Heck W got four with Skull. So New and popular equals lotta lockseeds.

So who knows how much other shows will get.

I still hope for Zeronos...

FifteenRider1971 · 09-18-2014, 06:58 PM

It looks like the Shows Set versions of Ichigo & RX have slightly different sounds than their Candy toy counterparts:

Ichigo:
Squash: Rider Tailspin Shoot
Ole: Shin Cyclone-Go
Sparking: Rider Double Kick

RX:
Squash: Revolcane
Ole: Acrobater
Sparking: RoboRider, BioRider
I guess they didn't want people who already the Candy Toy versions to feel like they had two of the same Lock Seed.

09-18-2014, 03:09 AM	#31
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	Quote: Originally Posted by SideswipePrime That's dumb, they should have been DX. The cost of engineering that many locks with springs, button activation and LEDs? Not cheap lol __________________ My signature disappeared. Help.

09-18-2014, 09:21 AM	#32
2ndSndWve Forever a sniper Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Maine Posts: 3,804	Quote: Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO The cost of engineering that many locks with springs, button activation and LEDs? Not cheap lol Yeah, but it's Bandai PREMIUM. We already have gashapon/candy toy locks for some of these, but DX versions would make it worthwhile. __________________ I got stuff for sale!

09-18-2014, 10:13 AM	#33
Phantom Stranger Neppu Yarou. Join Date: May 2014 Location: TN Posts: 951	Quote: Originally Posted by Talisman But we still got three for OOO and two, almost three, for Wizard. True. But Modern riders have a bit more going for them in their forms than "Has gun" and "Has stronger sword" They probably could do something with Bio is terms of adding some liquid sound effects in addition to the Bio Blade. But I have no clue what they would do for Robo. Quote: Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO The cost of engineering that many locks with springs, button activation and LEDs? Not cheap lol This. If albeit unfortunate, the average DX lockseed is $20 and that's on a mass produced level. I doubt many would really want to pay 360+ USD for this set. __________________ Jaaku no takurami nigashi wa shinai zo.

09-18-2014, 10:42 AM	#34
KamenRiderOOO Resident Customizer The Guy with the Voices @TrueKROOO Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Visalia, CA Posts: 11,089	Quote: Originally Posted by 2ndSndWve Yeah, but it's Bandai PREMIUM. We already have gashapon/candy toy locks for some of these, but DX versions would make it worthwhile. You gotta remember that PREMIUM BANDAI also means MADE TO ORDER. Sure they have the resources to make them, but what's the point in making a bunch of DX lock seeds that not everyone would buy? It's a lot more beneficial for them to produce Gashapons because of their composition. Quote: Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger True. But Modern riders have a bit more going for them in their forms than "Has gun" and "Has stronger sword" They probably could do something with Bio is terms of adding some liquid sound effects in addition to the Bio Blade. But I have no clue what they would do for Robo. That, and for OOO, I feel that the argument of him having 3 Locks is cause of the popularity of his TaJaDor Combo. I mean, they released the Ankh Lock Seed before it, so it was bound to happen that his popular Red Combo (Which was also the last combo he used in his show's run) would be made. And I'm glad they did make it! (hugs his LED TaJaDor Lock Seed) Quote: This. If albeit unfortunate, the average DX lockseed is $20 and that's on a mass produced level. I doubt many would really want to pay 360+ USD for this set. The actual retail for DX Lock Seeds is around 1600-1800, which is at the last time I checked the exchange rate $15-17. So more like a $276-311 value before shipping. Better off making a Gashapon which people only really pay 400-500 yen each, bar the rare 1/50 LED gashapon versions which sell from anywhere from 1200-2000yen on Mandarake __________________ My signature disappeared. Help.

09-18-2014, 11:07 AM	#35
Phantom Stranger Neppu Yarou. Join Date: May 2014 Location: TN Posts: 951	Quote: Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO The actual retail for DX Lock Seeds is around 1600-1800, which is at the last time I checked the exchange rate $15-17. So more like a $276-311 value before shipping. Better off making a Gashapon which people only really pay 400-500 yen each, bar the rare 1/50 LED gashapon versions which sell from anywhere from 1200-2000yen on Mandarake So either way it's still quite the increase. Speaking of LED, do we know if these have them? Would actually be more enticing if they all lit up, especially since some of these Riders only had candy versions. I really want an RX that lights up. __________________ Jaaku no takurami nigashi wa shinai zo.