[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Because at that point in the series, they were only just stumbling across who was behind the Memory selling on the streets that was turning people into Dopants. The first ten or so episodes were largely completely throw away and as stuff started to come together I just couldn't be bothered any more.

You say throwaway, I say establishement. It's one of the reasons W is so loved is because it so much of a story that develops from humble beginnings. Skull, Shroud, Foundation X. There's so much to the series besides W and the badguys themselves. W is two guys against a funded organization. The story is supposed to be how this unexpected element comes in and throws a wrench in the works. I mean, not to kind of give away the entire building symbolism, but that's why Shotaro's main memory is Joker. (As in joker in the deck, the trump card)

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Huh? I never said you can't like it, I'm just saying this is my reasoning for disliking it, whether you wanna call it BS or not.

No, I'm saying you don't have to like it. And as much of a cop-out statement it's grown into, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

You say throwaway, I say establishement. It's one of the reasons W is so loved is because it so much of a story that develops from humble beginnings. Skull, Shroud, Foundation X. There's so much to the series besides W and the badguys themselves. W is two guys against a funded organization. The story is supposed to be how this unexpected element comes in and throws a wrench in the works. I mean, not to kind of give away the entire building symbolism, but that's why Shotaro's main memory is Joker. (As in joker in the deck, the trump card)

No, I'm saying you don't have to like it. And as much of a cop-out statement it's grown into, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

I guess the difference is, I'm a movie fan more than I am a TV fan. In two hours an entire universe can be established, populated and destroyed, so I despise TV shows that stretch out everything to paper thin levels. They did not need to waste ten episodes on such little establishment.

But yes, agree to disagree is fine.

[Matrixbeast]

But you can't judge a movie and a TV show to the same standards, though.
A movie doesn't have to insert a fight scene every 10 minutes, for example. It gets better focus to set up what it needs to set up without having to hit some kind of quota...

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

But you can't judge a movie and a TV show to the same standards, though.
A movie doesn't have to insert a fight scene every 10 minutes, for example. It gets better focus to set up what it needs to set up without having to hit some kind of quota...

Of course, but you can tell an entire trilogy of films in the same time as ten episodes.

So in the time W took to set up one thing, another set of films had established entire universes, populated them with characters and destroyed them three times over.

That is ridiculous.

[Battlizer]

Finished Den-O. Really loved the last episode and the fact that Sieg once again just sorta came back out of nowhere. So overall, awesome series, though if I.have one main gripe, it's that the villains are underdeveloped. I still don't know what Kai's full deal was, other than he was just some psychopath.

Anyway, I know Den-O has a shitload of movies, left so I'll check those out eventually.

Also checked out the first four episodes of Kiva. It took some getting used to the new tone and format. And while it wasn't boring, I admit that I wasn't interested in the plot until episode 4 revealed that not only does Kiva own a massive dragon castle that bursts out of a building, but that castle somehow houses a werewolf who seemingly has nothing better to than sit around and transform into a new mode for Kiva for kicks.

[Locke]

Whoa so I said earlier in the series that Haruto was like his own sentai team...well now he literally is one. Not sure how I feel about this!

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Whoa so I said earlier in the series that Haruto was like his own sentai team...well now he literally is one. Not sure how I feel about this!

Got to DragoTime, it seems!

[KRX]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Whoa so I said earlier in the series that Haruto was like his own sentai team...well now he literally is one. Not sure how I feel about this!

I was a bit disappointed that Wizard Sentai Dragonman wasn't All-Dragon Form, but it exists, so I'm content.

[Locke]

All I know is, is Land Dragon is by far the crappiest looking. He literally looks like a Kamen Rider in a rainmac.

[Battlizer]

So the 1985 bits on Kiva are definitely the more interesting of the two eras. At least so far.