[SPLIT LIP]

Maybe it's just because, for now at least, I still consider myself a bit of an outsider to the workings and tropes of Kamen Rider, but I completely understand what Locke is saying.

Thematically, if you're villain is resistant to a certain attack, simply repeating it three times is not a "cool" way of beating him. It's how you beat an enemy in a video game that's health bar takes three finisher moves to beat. In a narrative "I can absorb that power" either means that your hero needs to use an even bigger, stronger attack to overpower them, or try an entirely new attack. Not just, essentially, spam the same attack button-mash style. It's... lame. Imagine if W beat Uptopia by doing his epic Twin Maximum Drive bicycle kick... but only after he had done it two times already.

[ryan]

Well, I guess I can see the 'it's not cool' argument, and I wonder if I am sort of seeing it in a video game health bar sort of way.

But still, he was limited to his weakest form due to recently having been dead, just like the opponent he was fighting (who otherwise would have regenerated again), so what else can he do but spam his most powerful attack?

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Well, I guess I can see the 'it's not cool' argument, and I wonder if I am sort of seeing it in a video game health bar sort of way.

But still, he was limited to his weakest form due to recently having been dead, just like the opponent he was fighting (who otherwise would have regenerated again), so what else can he do but spam his most powerful attack?

That's the point where you need to stop and say "if there's no other option but for Kuuga to use his least powerful form and least powerful attack, why did the writers put him in this awkward and unflattering narrative position?"

[ryan]

because it can still be gratifying to see someone triumph despite overwhelming odds?

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because it can still be gratifying to see someone triumph despite overwhelming odds?

Not if they do so in dissapointing, contrived ways.

It's not what you do, it's how you do it. I'm not saying it's the worst thing ever, just at I completely understand his viewpoint.

[Locke]

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Maybe it's just because, for now at least, I still consider myself a bit of an outsider to the workings and tropes of Kamen Rider, but I completely understand what Locke is saying.

Thematically, if you're villain is resistant to a certain attack, simply repeating it three times is not a "cool" way of beating him. It's how you beat an enemy in a video game that's health bar takes three finisher moves to beat. In a narrative "I can absorb that power" either means that your hero needs to use an even bigger, stronger attack to overpower them, or try an entirely new attack. Not just, essentially, spam the same attack button-mash style. It's... lame. Imagine if W beat Uptopia by doing his epic Twin Maximum Drive bicycle kick... but only after he had done it two times already.

This is exactly the point I was trying to make. I guess I could have *possibly* swallowed this on your average of the week episode, but the Fungus guy killed Godai, so you think he'd get a better send off than 'I kicked him three times' and considering the whole episode was so epic, Kuuga's return wasn't triumphant at all, since he just did the same move three times and that was that. This should have been an epic moment but I've seen web series with better action sequences.

And as I've said before, it isn't like the show cant do action, it stages wonderful sequences for Ichijou and the ULs but Kuuga's powers and general fight sequences always underwhelm. And it's a problem when your Rider is the least interesting thing in the show.

And yeah being critical of shows is how I process and enjoy them, I like pointing out what I found wrong and discussing it. Sadly it gives you a lot more to talk about than anything else.

For the record I love Kuuga, I just think the acting is poor and Kuuga himself is rubbish.

[SPLIT LIP]

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And yeah being critical of shows is how I process and enjoy them, I like pointing out what I found wrong and discussing it. Sadly it gives you a lot more to talk about than anything else.

We are like-minded. If I don't analyze something I can't take it in. It's not everything, but shows deffinately. And yeah, talking about the bad stuff always has more, because you're describing the flaws, how they're flaws, and what should have and could have been done. You don't do that with good stuff because there's no need. Unless something is super, amazingly impressive to the point where you want to spend ages peeling the layers of a grand epic, you're always going to waste more air on the problems.

[Locke]

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We are like-minded. If I don't analyze something I can't take it in. It's not everything, but shows deffinately. And yeah, talking about the bad stuff always has more, because you're describing the flaws, how they're flaws, and what should have and could have been done. You don't do that with good stuff because there's no need. Unless something is super, amazingly impressive to the point where you want to spend ages peeling the layers of a grand epic, you're always going to waste more air on the problems.

You are like the first person I've met who actually understands this!

[ryan]

I can understand you wanting to have an epic new power to beat the guy that killed him, but I like that we have to wait a couple more episodes for the Rising powers to manifest. I like the tease of the electricity in his anklet for the next couple of episodes

And yes, it's definitely easier to discuss what you don't like, compared to what you do, unless you find crazy people who don't like what you like, then you can discuss it for a page or two.

[SPLIT LIP]

I have absolutely no idea which one of us that dig was directed towards.