[Locke]

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

The difference is, "later" in this case is "well you're basically there, just watch the movie."

I mean, for everything you pick apart in W I can find three times as many giant flaws in literally any given show.

Also, while this has little to do with storytelling, I do recall someone once telling me that W had a smaller budget than the series before it, Decade, because Decade was this big anniversary celebration.

I still think the bad CGI complaint is silly when nowadays we have Wizard which basically makes it's money off of terrible, unnecessary effects like his bike/dragon thing. (I never got how he used his bike to give the dragon wings when shouldn't it already have wings?) Or how Hurricane Dragon has silly CGI wings to let it fly, even though regular hurricane can already do that.

Oh yeah those Wizard sections are really, really shit. A lot of his powers and suits look really shitty in honesty (I've upgraded look at my rain mack!) but the fights are very polished and fun. I still don't think W's fights flowed well but the thread just calmed down again so let's leave that for another century.

[SPLIT LIP]

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Originally Posted by ryan

The worst part is he gives the dragon wings, but when he gets his dragon upgrades one of them is wings, which the dragon shouldn't have if he has to give them AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Originally Posted by Locke

Oh yeah those Wizard sections are really, really shit. A lot of his powers and suits look really shitty in honesty (I've upgraded look at my rain mack!) but the fights are very polished and fun. I still don't think W's fights flowed well but the thread just calmed down again so let's leave that for another century.

I don't see what makes the fights in Wizard better than W. He still just hits and kicks and it looks no different except he sometimes uses a sword that, to it's credit looks like it's actually made of metal, but just means he's swinging his arms around. I'm not a huge fan of swords unless it's like in Den-O where he swings the thing so freaking fast and hard it really looks like he's just clubbing the dude with the prop almost.

Also, I've slowly grown to find Wizard's design utterly aweful. The suit is just too basic and "first step" while being simultainiously too flashy with the coat and giant jewel head. It's not attarctive to look at. And that goes for all forms. It's like, with W he had the half and half gimmick, and when he changed forms evne though they kept the same design, the colours completely changed and whatever the memory colour was became that entire side. Wizard's main colours aren't even the whole suit. It's like "hey guys look, I changed my accent colour and shape of my face and it's suppsoed to be a big upgrade!" At least with W the six memories all felt like part of his base form and swapped instantly. Wizard has to reset his driver, put his ring on, then hold his hand in front of his belt for a full second before and overly long transformation happens.

[Matrixbeast]

Also, I've realized that the Wizard directions have noticed that the belt is obtrusive and loud.
While "Shabadoobie" hasn't been dropped, "Luppachi Magic: Touch Go!" hasn't show up in ages.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Also, I've realized that the Wizard directions have noticed that the belt is obtrusive and loud.
While "Shabadoobie" hasn't been dropped, "Luppachi Magic: Touch Go!" hasn't show up in ages.

The show seems to HATE them, with the belt still shouting in the background long after the show has moved on.

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

I don't see what makes the fights in Wizard better than W. He still just hits and kicks and it looks no different except he sometimes uses a sword that, to it's credit looks like it's actually made of metal, but just means he's swinging his arms around. I'm not a huge fan of swords unless it's like in Den-O where he swings the thing so freaking fast and hard it really looks like he's just clubbing the dude with the prop almost.

Also, I've slowly grown to find Wizard's design utterly aweful. The suit is just too basic and "first step" while being simultainiously too flashy with the coat and giant jewel head. It's not attarctive to look at. And that goes for all forms. It's like, with W he had the half and half gimmick, and when he changed forms evne though they kept the same design, the colours completely changed and whatever the memory colour was became that entire side. Wizard's main colours aren't even the whole suit. It's like "hey guys look, I changed my accent colour and shape of my face and it's suppsoed to be a big upgrade!" At least with W the six memories all felt like part of his base form and swapped instantly. Wizard has to reset his driver, put his ring on, then hold his hand in front of his belt for a full second before and overly long transformation happens.

I dunno, I guess because of the mix of forms and powers meant it didn't feel quite like it was going through the motions. Once all of W's forms had been introduced and combos and so on, the thing felt like it was in a rush to get the flashy finishing moves. Kuuga does the same. Only Kuuga can't do flashy. So it's more just like...a move.

I kinda like Infinity because it's the first time the whole jewel thing has actually worked for the costume and I grew to like Flame Style due to it feeling so familiar but all the rest...yeah. The horrible colours for Land and Land Dragon. The rainmacks. The stupid helmets. Not great.

[SPLIT LIP]

Plus, it doesn't look like a Wizard. At all. Not that the show has a clear explanation of what a wizard is.

[Locke]

Wizard looks kinda like what happened to the superheroes in the 90s. I know that Wizard's don't need to be like dudes in cone hats with long beards but since when was a wizard a leather trenchcoat and some cheap plastic jewellery?

[Matrixbeast]

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Originally Posted by Locke

Wizard looks kinda like what happened to the superheroes in the 90s. I know that Wizard's don't need to be like dudes in cone hats with long beards but since when was a wizard a leather trenchcoat and some cheap plastic jewellery?

And when he uses Excite, he looks even more like a 90's Super hero!

[SPLIT LIP]

I guess the same time a wizard became "dude who just puts on rings and thus I guess he can control magic."

Seriously, without the rings or driver he wouldn't be a wizard in any capacity.

[Locke]

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

And when he uses Excite, he looks even more like a 90's Super hero!

It's even really poorly done like a true Liefeld drawing.

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

I guess the same time a wizard became "dude who just puts on rings and thus I guess he can control magic."

Seriously, without the rings or driver he wouldn't be a wizard in any capacity.

LOL this is so true and it becomes really awkward later when he wants to really casually show off his powers and he has to fumble with his rings and obnoxious Driver.

[SPLIT LIP]

So, I went back to Ryuki. I'm only halfway through episode 3 but I quite like it. It's moving along respectfully, having just brought up "there can be only one rider" interesting. Ryuki himself is a cool guy, hotblooded and driven and not taking any of Batchump's shit. (although he owes him $300 now) Speaking of, it's a real shame Batface is such a titanic asshole because he looks awesome.

Speaking of, the cinematography really bugs me. Lots of weird angles, but most of all the actual production value of the show is... weird. It's like the framerate or something is too high. It's so odd and nothing like any Rider show I've seen before or since. Agito didn't look like this.