What are you watching? (Kamen Rider Edition)

Matrixbeast · 06-18-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Oh I assumed that Perseus became a Horoscope at the end, with the whole Flashback thing and stuff. That was confusing then.

Last One doesn't seem to visible do anything though. If anything since Last One is basically a verbal announcement they are about to get killed, they seem stronger before that button press.

Nah. Perseus was just a normal Zodiart.

And yeah, Last One simply removes the human body. I don't think any Zodiart who undergoes Last One actually receives a physical change.

ZeoRangerV · 06-18-2013, 04:25 PM

What parts of Fourze had CGI motorbikes? The only times I remember it showing up where CGI would even be warranted was when it was being launched into space.

Locke · 06-18-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Nah. Perseus was just a normal Zodiart.

And yeah, Last One simply removes the human body. I don't think any Zodiart who undergoes Last One actually receives a physical change.

Then what was all that about at the end? I guess I'll find out next episode...

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Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV

What parts of Fourze had CGI motorbikes? The only times I remember it showing up where CGI would even be warranted was when it was being launched into space.

Most of the time, there are shots of him from the waist up where I guess he's on a trailer holding some prop handles but when it zooms out it is majoritively CGI.

Matrixbeast · 06-18-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

Then what was all that about at the end? I guess I'll find out next episode...

It's been well over a year since I've seen the arc you're at, so I might be thinking of the wrong character...
All I know is that Zodiart going into Last One isn't anywhere near the level of a Horoscope going Supernova.

SPLIT LIP · 06-18-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Locke

THIS. This is exactly what my point was.

You shouldn't use CGI for EVERYTHING.

They don't, though. CGI is barely 20% of the action. Unless Fourze is just the only fucking KR show to render most of itself in CGI, you're chattin' absolute balls. I've now seen a good chunk of most Heisei rider shows, and still don't get this. Even Decade where his gimmick was changing riders in to big weapons, while the transformations were CGI, he did use (mostly) giant physical props. (even the Kiva Arrow and Faiz Blaster)

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Why even have suit actors if 90% of what they are doing is animated?

Again, what are you on about. Unless somebody would like to reveal unto me that Fourze just randomly, abuses CGI more than any other KR, I don't know what you're on about.

I mean, you're watching OOO, and I can't think of anything like you're describing. The only two instances I recall are when the Ridevendor got the Cheetah upgrade (said upgrade is not a functioning vehicle, so it's understandable, and they intercut shots of OOO on the practical bike. Also it doesn't show up... I think ever again except maybe once) and Tajador when he flies. (also acceptable since, well, he's flying superman style. And they also intercut scenes of the suit actor with CGI wings)

Locke · 06-18-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

It's been well over a year since I've seen the arc you're at, so I might be thinking of the wrong character...
All I know is that Zodiart going into Last One isn't anywhere near the level of a Horoscope going Supernova.

Perseus reached the state beyond Last One by absorbing Flame States flames into the Switch then we got a flashback of Scorpion's birth who looked like some kind of cat thing before.

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

I mean, you're watching OOO, and I can't think of anything like you're describing. The only two instances I recall are when the Ridevendor got the Cheetah upgrade (said upgrade is not a functioning vehicle, so it's understandable, and they intercut shots of OOO on the practical bike. Also it doesn't show up... I think ever again except maybe once) and Tajador when he flies. (also acceptable since, well, he's flying superman style. And they also intercut scenes of the suit actor with CGI wings)

OOOs done most of it practically so far, I'm really pleased with that. It has less CGI than W, Fourze and Wizard by a large mile. His suit and weapons look of much higher quality as well.

SPLIT LIP · 06-18-2013, 04:37 PM

OOO doesn't use less CGI than W, you just stopped W before they cooled off the CGI. Most rider shows CGI it up before just using it for the occasional thing.

Wizard does love it's CGI, though.

Locke · 06-18-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

OOO doesn't use less CGI than W, you just stopped W before they cooled off the CGI. Most rider shows CGI it up before just using it for the occasional thing.

Wizard does love it's CGI, though.

Oh yeah. I still need to get to the good bit of W eventually.

SPLIT LIP · 06-18-2013, 04:39 PM

Or rather, you need to just watch the movie and go from there.

Locke · 06-18-2013, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Or rather, you need to just watch the movie and go from there.

Or that

06-18-2013, 04:24 PM	#5041
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	Quote: Originally Posted by Locke Oh I assumed that Perseus became a Horoscope at the end, with the whole Flashback thing and stuff. That was confusing then. Last One doesn't seem to visible do anything though. If anything since Last One is basically a verbal announcement they are about to get killed, they seem stronger before that button press. Nah. Perseus was just a normal Zodiart. And yeah, Last One simply removes the human body. I don't think any Zodiart who undergoes Last One actually receives a physical change. __________________

06-18-2013, 04:25 PM	#5042
ZeoRangerV Kawaii 5-0 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cardiff, United Kingdom Posts: 12,851	What parts of Fourze had CGI motorbikes? The only times I remember it showing up where CGI would even be warranted was when it was being launched into space. __________________ My Shiny Toy Robots: Toku, Anime & Toy Reviews

06-18-2013, 04:25 PM	#5043
Locke Big Bad Wolf. Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Raiding tombs. Posts: 9,529	Quote: Originally Posted by Matrixbeast Nah. Perseus was just a normal Zodiart. And yeah, Last One simply removes the human body. I don't think any Zodiart who undergoes Last One actually receives a physical change. Then what was all that about at the end? I guess I'll find out next episode... Quote: Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV What parts of Fourze had CGI motorbikes? The only times I remember it showing up where CGI would even be warranted was when it was being launched into space. Most of the time, there are shots of him from the waist up where I guess he's on a trailer holding some prop handles but when it zooms out it is majoritively CGI. __________________

06-18-2013, 04:31 PM	#5044
Matrixbeast Mighty Morphin Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Za Warudo Posts: 25,465	Quote: Originally Posted by Locke Then what was all that about at the end? I guess I'll find out next episode... It's been well over a year since I've seen the arc you're at, so I might be thinking of the wrong character... All I know is that Zodiart going into Last One isn't anywhere near the level of a Horoscope going Supernova. __________________

06-18-2013, 04:31 PM	#5045
SPLIT LIP I'm an agile cat. Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,032	Quote: Originally Posted by Locke THIS. This is exactly what my point was. You shouldn't use CGI for EVERYTHING. They don't, though. CGI is barely 20% of the action. Unless Fourze is just the only fucking KR show to render most of itself in CGI, you're chattin' absolute balls. I've now seen a good chunk of most Heisei rider shows, and still don't get this. Even Decade where his gimmick was changing riders in to big weapons, while the transformations were CGI, he did use (mostly) giant physical props. (even the Kiva Arrow and Faiz Blaster) Quote: Why even have suit actors if 90% of what they are doing is animated? Again, what are you on about. Unless somebody would like to reveal unto me that Fourze just randomly, abuses CGI more than any other KR, I don't know what you're on about. I mean, you're watching OOO, and I can't think of anything like you're describing. The only two instances I recall are when the Ridevendor got the Cheetah upgrade (said upgrade is not a functioning vehicle, so it's understandable, and they intercut shots of OOO on the practical bike. Also it doesn't show up... I think ever again except maybe once) and Tajador when he flies. (also acceptable since, well, he's flying superman style. And they also intercut scenes of the suit actor with CGI wings) Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 06-18-2013 at 04:34 PM..