[SanoBaron]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

Build Fighters does not appeal to me. I go to Gundam for war stories, not for simulations based on toys.

I got enough of that out of Deadliest Warrior.

but it's nothing like Deadliest Warrior.

it's the second coming of G Gundam and a love letter to Gundam and Gunpla.

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Originally Posted by FormerTitanium

Gundam Wing only gets praise for their MS designs lets be honest here.

I like Wing for what it is. plus, it helped put Gundam on the map for English speaking audiences. so you have to give it credit for that.

[Kiryu]

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Originally Posted by Talisman

Build Fighters does not appeal to me. I go to Gundam for war stories, not for simulations based on toys.

I got enough of that out of Deadliest Warrior.

Give it another chance because Build Fighters has some really great action choreography in the first season.

[SanoBaron]

and at least try to watch Try, because while it isn't as great as the first season, it still has a lot of good little things here and there that make it great.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by SanoBaron

but it's nothing like Deadliest Warrior.

it's the second coming of G Gundam and a love letter to Gundam and Gunpla.

But Gunpla has never been a major thing for me. I liked the old MSIA line, sure, but models was never a huge part of my life. Even my love of aircraft only OCCASIONALLY manifested as a model kit. I prefer things with low chances of breakage.

[FormerTitanium]

Finished gundam X

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by XW1n5t0nX

Bull fucking shit. Wing is one of the worst shows I have ever seen. The characters are either cardboard or unbearable. Nobody receives any development and if by some chance they do it makes no sense. And Relena, don't get me started on her. She goes from sort of wallflower to hardcore peace activist then onto "meh" so fast and so hard without any real reason or development that it hurts. Throw in some pretty bad animation, overly OP Gundam (though they do at least look cool), and a story that cares more about boring ass speeches about politics then an actually interesting story and you have the worst Gundam show I have ever seen. Only thing worse is Stardust Memory, but that's an OVA so my statement still stands. Gundam Wing is the WORST Gundam show.

No development? What do you call Heero growing from lonley soldier boy who will kill anyone in his way to being a caring person?

Treize who started out blood thirsty and learned to fully respect his enemy thanks to Wufei?

Lady Une who went through a multiple personality disorder between what is right and wrong?

Trowa learning to accept the help of others?

Relena for growing up from a selfish rich brat to someone wanting to save the world? Yes, she is annoying and I wish she would have died, but you can not deny the changes she incurred over the course of the series.

Zechs for... whatever the hell it was he wanted. It is never quite clear.

Not just the development, but this is the only Gundam show where the Gundam pilots are not controlled by the military and their Gundams are what they are supposed to be, being the ultimate weapons of mass destruction. They don't take orders from lowlife scummy military authority figures who don't give a crap about anyone but themselves (hell, in my view, the Duchy of Zeon WERE the good guys of the original series).

The soundtrack.

The animation is gorgeous and detailed. You can't take points away for stock footage on a Toku board. Toku lives on stock footage.

However, if you think Wing is the worst series, you clearly have not watched Reconquista G, SEED Destiny, X, , Age, or Victory.

BTW, worst GUndam OVA is War in the Pocket.

[XW1n5t0nX]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

No development? What do you call Heero growing from lonley soldier boy who will kill anyone in his way to being a caring person?

Treize who started out blood thirsty and learned to fully respect his enemy thanks to Wufei?

Lady Une who went through a multiple personality disorder between what is right and wrong?

Trowa learning to accept the help of others?

Relena for growing up from a selfish rich brat to someone wanting to save the world? Yes, she is annoying and I wish she would have died, but you can not deny the changes she incurred over the course of the series.

Zechs for... whatever the hell it was he wanted. It is never quite clear.

Not just the development, but this is the only Gundam show where the Gundam pilots are not controlled by the military and their Gundams are what they are supposed to be, being the ultimate weapons of mass destruction. They don't take orders from lowlife scummy military authority figures who don't give a crap about anyone but themselves (hell, in my view, the Duchy of Zeon WERE the good guys of the original series).

The soundtrack.

The animation is gorgeous and detailed. You can't take points away for stock footage on a Toku board. Toku lives on stock footage.

However, if you think Wing is the worst series, you clearly have not watched Reconquista G, SEED Destiny, X, , Age, or Victory.

BTW, worst GUndam OVA is War in the Pocket.

You say caring, I say he's still an cold lone wolf emo boy.

Except Treize always was respectful. Wu Fei didn't make it him that way. You could argue that Wu Fei brought it out more but Treize was always like that even if he was on a bloodlust.

I call it confusing and unneeded. I'm fine with characters having MPD, but Une was just, no. It comes out of left field and the switches happen so randomly and suddenly that you never get use to her kinder side. She's portrayed for a majority of the show as being a war hungry villain. Yes MPD comes in random periods, but as I said the switch happens so bizarrely and never lasts for very long to get use to the other personality. She should have either just been one or the other or just have two people in Treize's corner be each.

Yeah, when forced to do so. He's still mainly a one man team and only takes on teammates near the end because "Well shit, guess I better go with the sort of enemy of my enemy is my sort of friend."

She's still a brat though. She goes from one extreme to the other only to end up as being bland and unlikeable at the end.

Nahh, they just take orders from scientists whose purpose could be compared to that of terrorists. Also, G Gundam and Gundam X say hi.

I'll give you the soundtrack...save for Just Love.

Wing looked outdated when it aired, it only got worse with age. And that's something that goes for pretty much a lot of the main shows up until the 2000s (though then they went to generic).

I have seen X and it is a thousand times better. Characters that actually grow and develop and that one can care about. Mobile suits that while strong have a balance to them that makes the fights challenging and fun to watch. A glorious soundtrack, making Newtypes not dumb and confusing. Relationships handled like actual relationships. These and more make X a superior show to W in pretty much every way.

Unless War in the Pocket takes a complete dive into shit I highly doubt it.

[Talisman]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

BTW, worst GUndam OVA is War in the Pocket.

I take issue with this statement.

[WhiteRanger]

I'm just sitting in my corner due to I like wing not for gundams bit characters have I seen other Gundam shows. Yes I have but none have never compared to me and wing. Is due to the fact wing was my first Gundam show probably but the fact only UC Gundam show are near the level to what I like to me show that wing is still so what alot people think is bad. I loved it and still do I have rewatched more times then any other Gundam show. We have have matter opinion o wing but some like it some hate it me i love it.

[Kiwami]